Tucker Speaks

[Horace]

TNCR's national pastime is to dunk on Tucker Carlson. But I didn't hear much in those two videos that seemed totally indefensible.

[Renauda]

@Horace

But I didn't hear much in those two videos that seemed totally indefensible.

Frankly speaking nor did I. However, Carlson seems to equate Zionism with Netanyahu and his current coalition’s policy towards Palestinian Arabs. I on the other hand, would suggest Netanyahu has hijacked and distorted Zionism in order to justify his ultra nationalist policies towards Arabs and Muslims in general. Despite his professed disdain for leftist political ideology that holds Zionism to be a form of racism, Carlson appears paradoxically in agreement with the Left on the matter of Zionism.

[jon-nyc]

All’s not well in magalandia.

[Axtremus]

What specific actions of the Republican Party does TuCa have problem with?

[Horace]

@Axtremus said:

What specific actions of the Republican Party does TuCa have problem with?

You have to know that much in order to have an adult conversation. I suggest you look it up.

And yes, this post took me longer to write than it would have taken to tell you what you would like to know.

[Doctor Phibes]

He's got a cheek saying they're unpatriotic after that dreadful puff piece he did on Putin's Russia.

[89th]

Did Tucker not see any of this coming? Or was he conned by the Don?

[Horace]

He placed his bets on the better bet. I mean, who knows who he'll be "supporting" next, but I'm sure Trump was the better bet than Kamala. He says that even now.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said:

He's got a cheek saying they're unpatriotic after that dreadful puff piece he did on Putin's Russia.

So boring. Russia bad is almost as boring as orange man bad. It's probably a little bit more nuanced than that.

Personally I don't give a f about Russia or Ukraine, but it sure is weird to watch the Manichean attitude towards that from a bunch of Westerners who don't know jack shit. If one has a personal connection, then they get a pass.

Even if there's an aggressor, whatever, you will still choose to throw your sons' lives at it interminably rather than accept new borders. Whatever. It's not as if the next generation will actually care, until you tell them to care.

[89th]

@Horace said:

He placed his bets on the better bet. I mean, who knows who he'll be "supporting" next, but I'm sure Trump was the better bet than Kamala. He says that even now.

Maybe. He sure seems to dislike Trump and the Republican party. I haven't voted Republican since Romney... so I'm holier than Tucker.

[Horace]

@89th said:

@Horace said:

He placed his bets on the better bet. I mean, who knows who he'll be "supporting" next, but I'm sure Trump was the better bet than Kamala. He says that even now.

Maybe. He sure seems to dislike Trump and the Republican party. I haven't voted Republican since Romney... so I'm holier than Tucker.

At some point every thinking person chooses never to vote again, and then they think again, and they submit to the voting process. Or not.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said:

So boring. Russia bad is almost as boring as orange man bad. It's probably a little bit more nuanced than that.

Sure, Russia is complicated. On the other hand, there's not much nuance that I can see to Vladimir Putin.

However, Tucker Carlson becoming outraged on our behalf by how cheap supermarket food is in Russia is beyond stoopid.

[Horace]

I'm pretty sure that's not an accurate framing of what Tucker was saying. I think he was saying that Russia ain't that bad.

[kluurs]

Having grown up in the post WWII glow, the 60s and 70s - the US was still the envy of the world - with the biggest and bests. We watched films of WWII that told us how our "industrial might" could be matched by no other nation. Our institutions were set the standards for the world.

That influence has lingered in our consciousness though less true - and in some cases, completely false.

Depending upon how one wishes to rate things, many nations have higher standards of living, better healthcare, higher citizen satisfaction, and even better image in the world.

Tucker's amazement that Russians aren't living a life like Ivan Denisovich isn't too far off from many American's perceptions - folks who visit China are amazed to see a country that seems a decade or more ahead of us in technology - a kind of culture shock when compared to our self-narrative.

[Renauda]

@Horace

Personally I don't give a f about Russia or Ukraine, but it sure is weird to watch the Manichean attitude towards that from a bunch of Westerners who don't know jack shit..

I so want the likes of Fucker Carlson and you to tell me what life in Russia is really like.

[Horace]

@Renauda said:

@Horace

Personally I don't give a f about Russia or Ukraine, but it sure is weird to watch the Manichean attitude towards that from a bunch of Westerners who don't know jack shit..

I so want the likes of Fucker Carlson and you to tell me what life in Russia is really like.

I won't tell you anything, nor will you tell me anything about my personal life.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said:

I'm pretty sure that's not an accurate framing of what Tucker was saying. I think he was saying that Russia ain't that bad.

He actually said he was 'radicalized' by the experience of finding you could buy a week's worth of groceries for $100. He didn't seem to realise that the reason they were so cheap is because that's all Russians could afford.

Incidentally, my Russian emigre friend despises Carlson almost as much as he does Putin. Take that for what it's worth.

[Axtremus]

[Renauda]

@Horace said:

@Renauda said:

@Horace

Personally I don't give a f about Russia or Ukraine, but it sure is weird to watch the Manichean attitude towards that from a bunch of Westerners who don't know jack shit..

I so want the likes of Fucker Carlson and you to tell me what life in Russia is really like.

I won't tell you anything, nor will you tell me anything about my personal life.

No need to and besides, that’s not what I asked in the first place.

I know full well you and Carlson have no real life experience of Russia. It’s pretty obvious too.

[Doctor Phibes]

I find watching this bloke wandering around in his preppy attire being amazed at the concept of paying a deposit for supermarket carts so funny. Presumably they don't have such things down in Boca Grande.

Radicalized, my arse.