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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • jon-nycJ Online
    jon-nycJ Online
    jon-nyc
    wrote last edited by
    #1382

    Exceptionally good analysis by Andrew Fox, former British Army paratrooper and lecturer in war studies at Sandhurst. A tough, tough read in places.

    I was unaware of Erdogan's role. We had commented here on 'what happened to arming the Kurds?' but never had a good answer.

    There's a lot here, highly recommended.

    https://mrandrewfox.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-debacle?utm_source=app-post-stats-page&r=z0uop&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

    There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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      #1383

      I chuckled when Vance said the hard liners in the Iranian government are going to over-emphasize the good parts and under-emphasize the bad parts. You know, unlike anything Vance and Trump would do.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Exceptionally good analysis by Andrew Fox, former British Army paratrooper and lecturer in war studies at Sandhurst. A tough, tough read in places.

        I was unaware of Erdogan's role. We had commented here on 'what happened to arming the Kurds?' but never had a good answer.

        There's a lot here, highly recommended.

        https://mrandrewfox.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-debacle?utm_source=app-post-stats-page&r=z0uop&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

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        wrote last edited by
        #1384

        @jon-nyc said:

        Exceptionally good analysis by Andrew Fox, former British Army paratrooper and lecturer in war studies at Sandhurst. A tough, tough read in places.

        I was unaware of Erdogan's role. We had commented here on 'what happened to arming the Kurds?' but never had a good answer.

        There's a lot here, highly recommended.

        https://mrandrewfox.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-debacle?utm_source=app-post-stats-page&r=z0uop&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

        From my TARS robot:

        Failed Strategic Objective: The U.S. and Israel launched a war against Iran based on a maximalist plan targeting regime collapse, but the operation failed to trigger a popular internal uprising or a successful Kurdish ground front.

        The Turkish Veto: A planned ground invasion from Iraqi Kurdistan was abruptly halted and abandoned after Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan intervened and pressured President Trump, exposing a critical vulnerability in the war plan.

        The Hormuz Oil Shock: Iran retaliated by effectively closing the strategic Strait of Hormuz, threatening a massive global oil shock that could have pushed U.S. gasoline prices well above $5 to $7 a gallon.

        Depleted Missile Arsenals: Iran's highly accurate ballistic missile strikes inflicted significant regional damage and forced the U.S. to rapidly consume expensive interceptor stocks, creating dangerous ammunition shortages that now affect defense readiness for Europe and Taiwan.

        A Rushed Ceasefire: To avoid a catastrophic domestic economic hit from soaring oil prices, the Trump administration rushed into a memorandum of understanding (MOU) in Switzerland—effectively conceding a ceasefire that leaves the Iranian regime intact, active in the field, and economically relieved.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          wrote last edited by
          #1385

          I know reading is passé these days but honestly read it when you're eating your sandwich or whatever. It's worth it.

          There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
            wrote last edited by
            #1386

            I have it open on a tab to do so when I have a few minutes for sure.

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            • X xenon

              I don’t understand why republicans aren’t revolting against this.

              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
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              #1387

              @xenon said:

              I don’t understand why republicans aren’t revolting against this.

              An exception.

              There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
                wrote last edited by
                #1388

                Not a Republican politician, but definitely a big right of center voice in finance.

                There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                  NobodySock
                  wrote last edited by NobodySock
                  #1389

                  @jon-nyc said:

                  Rubio is not even giving thought to Iran. He is totally consumed with operation free Cuba.

                  None of these sycophants are very smart in the end. They don’t see how the future will present itself to them after all of their dastardly deeds. Marco Rubio will be wearing bright orange prison jumpers one day. His thought that he will be president one day? This is how un serious a person he is.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #1390

                    He’s at least prescient.

                    There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nyc
                      wrote last edited by
                      #1391

                      Iran and Oman to collect ‘transit fees’ for the strait.

                      There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                      • AxtremusA Away
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                        Axtremus
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                        #1392

                        Oy.

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