More drama at 60 minutes

[Horace]

It would be very easy to accuse Mr Pelley of stolen valor. The reputation of war correspondents is forged by people who walk the walk to a much greater extent than he ever did, or ever might have done. They don't let the embedded Pelleys of the world face real danger when they can help it.

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Your instinct is directionally right for elite American network/newspaper correspondents, but I’d separate two claims:

1. “Being a war correspondent” is genuinely dangerous globally. CPJ recorded record journalist/media-worker deaths in 2024 and again in 2025, overwhelmingly driven by Gaza and other conflict zones. That danger is now borne mostly by local journalists, not famous American network correspondents parachuting in. (Reuters)

2. For prominent U.S.-outlet American correspondents, the statistical death risk has recently been very low. As we said, the last clean “major U.S. publication + American + killed covering war” case seems to be Michael Kelly of The Atlantic / Washington Post, killed near Baghdad on April 3, 2003. CPJ’s Iraq retrospective says only two U.S. journalists died in the Iraq war, and Kelly was the major-publication battlefield case. (Committee to Protect Journalists)

On the highway comparison: U.S. traffic deaths are not trivial. NHTSA’s 2024 figure was about 39,254 traffic deaths, with a fatality rate of 1.19 per 100 million vehicle miles traveled. (NHTSA) So a commuter driving, say, 15,000 miles/year faces a crude annual road-death exposure around:

15,000 × 1.19 / 100,000,000 = 0.0001785, or about 1 in 5,600 per year.

That’s not perfectly apples-to-apples, because the denominator for “prominent U.S. war correspondents deployed to war zones” is tiny and intermittent. But your rhetorical point is fair: for a famous American correspondent in the modern era, “war correspondent” may function more as a credibility/status credential than as evidence of ongoing extraordinary mortal risk. The people paying the real current death toll are much more often local reporters in Gaza, Ukraine, Sudan, Mexico, etc., not the Scott Pelley class.

One caveat: danger is not just death. War reporters can face kidnapping, detention, injury, trauma, and arbitrary violence. But if we’re talking fatality statistics for prominent American outlet journalists, the “I risked my life in war zones” credential is probably doing more emotional work than actuarial work.

[Horace]

How do you know a journalist used to be a war correspondent? They'll tell you.

That variation of the joke about Harvard grads is my takeaway from Mr Pelley.

Note the irony that you can have no such certainty about a soldier and how you can tell whether they've seen some shit. Because those who have, generally aren't eager to talk about it.

[Horace]

I keep biting off little pieces of the Pelley interview. To give an example of how astonishingly insular his life had become in whatever cocoon allows him to continue, with a straight face, to expect pure admiration, trust, and credibility because he was a "war correspondent" - he wasn't familiar with the name "Bari Weiss" before she took over CBS. That is fucking ridiculous. The dude is a fossilized talking head with an unaccountable ego.

[89th]

We'll see in a year.

[Horace]

I guess we'll see in a year whether the dying population of 60 Minutes viewers is growing, or shrinking. But with Pelley at the helm, it is sadly clear the direction it would have gone. I know old people are a large economic force and their eyeballs are valuable, but that level of insularity is not sustainable.

[89th]

Or Pelley objected to Weiss interjecting into the process by saying things like "you need to make the (Minnesota) protestors look more violent" or "make it clearer that Renee Goode was driving towards the officer" (she wasn't).

[Horace]

It is certainly possible to shade coverage of the MN ICE protests one way or the other. Your post is suspiciously without cites. But shifting the bias in a certain direction is not necessarily shifting it away from truth. It might be shifting it towards truth.

[Horace]

Horace said:

I agree that TMZ is the gold standard of journalism.

Here's the gold standard at work. So you judge the father of Austin Metcalf who got murdered by the young black man, and who has watched the popular culture reaction, led by the murderer's parents, and their legal counsel. And their affiliates in the political pop culture, like Jasmine Crockett. Who by the way was born into more privilege than your loyal poster here.

Link to video

[jon-nyc]

@Horace said:

... the popular culture reaction ...

Isn't that a bit of an exaggeration? I can't say I have my pulse on pop-culture, quite the opposite, but in my media diet I've seen literally zero support for the killer. I only know there exists support for him because of others talking about it and (rightly) shaming it. Contrast that with more 'mainstream' racially-charged controversies where I do in fact see examples of people taking each of the various sides.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said:

@Horace said:

... the popular culture reaction ...

Isn't that a bit of an exaggeration? I can't say I have my pulse on pop-culture, quite the opposite, but in my media diet I've seen literally zero support for the killer. I only know there exists support for him because of others talking about it and (rightly) shaming it. Contrast that with more 'mainstream' racially-charged controversies where I do in fact see examples of people taking each of the various sides.

Of course I'm mostly online, and I have to guard against that.

I was just about to post this guy, and I believe he's the majority.

Link to video

[Horace]

But you should probably give some credence to the fact that it's TMZ, and some young white guy anchors who are that seriously deluded by their own social climbing motivation.