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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    President Trump spent $560 million and it looks like he will lose.

    BTW, spending is out of control.

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    • MikM Offline
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      #3

      560 is a pretty cheap WH race. Hillary spent almost $800m. Biden spent just under $1.4B.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • MikM Mik

        560 is a pretty cheap WH race. Hillary spent almost $800m. Biden spent just under $1.4B.

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        @Mik said in $100M:

        560 is a pretty cheap WH race. Hillary spent almost $800m. Biden spent just under $1.4B.

        I don’t really have an answer, but do you think more money would’ve made a difference?

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          I have no idea. But you cited Trump’s comparatively low spending as evidence of out of control spending. Actually if you count PACs he spent around 800M, still a lot less than the competition.

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • MikM Mik

            I have no idea. But you cited Trump’s comparatively low spending as evidence of out of control spending. Actually if you count PACs he spent around 800M, still a lot less than the competition.

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            @Mik said in $100M:

            I have no idea. But you cited Trump’s comparatively low spending as evidence of out of control spending. Actually if you count PACs he spent around 800M, still a lot less than the competition.

            Even so, it seems like he got his name out there.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              President Trump spent $560 million and it looks like he will lose.

              BTW, spending is out of control.

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              @taiwan_girl said in $100M:

              President Trump spent $560 million and it looks like he will lose.

              BTW, spending is out of control.

              Lot of difference between a Senate race and a presidential race...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                My thinking was that spending in general on ALL races is out of control.

                I think that the "Citizens United" case in 2010 was "somewhat" start of it.

                I think that the ruling was probably correct on that law, but that does not mean it is for the best thing for the people and society.

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                  The Onion: Money well spent!

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    They should cap the spend at something like 1 million dollars.

                    If you can't do something useful with a million bucks you have no business running the country with other people's money.

                    I was only joking

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                      https://abcnews.com/Politics/after-languishing-state-legislatures-country-approach-curtailing-money/story?id=133151163

                      Hawaii is on a collision course with legal precedents that allow corporations to pump billions into elections after its governor signed a first-of-its-kind campaign finance reform bill into law.

                      The bill, SB 2471, was crafted to curb political spending by leveraging the state’s ability to define the powers of a corporation. Due to the new law’s sweeping implications for political speech and elections, it seems almost certain to draw legal challenges.

                      and

                      In 2010, the Supreme Court issued a ruling in the case of Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission which asserted that independent corporate spending on elections is a form of protected speech. The ruling famously nullified past guardrails on political spending, and contributed to the formation of so-called “super PAC” political action committees, which can support their chosen candidates with unlimited corporate backing.

                      Though it does not directly dispute that corporations have a right to political speech, the new Hawaii law says that, since the powers of corporations are granted by states, the state can decline to grant corporations the power to spend on elections in the first place. The new law is set to be enforced in 2027.

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