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The largest uninhabited island on Earth.

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  • MikM Offline
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    Looks a lot like Mars, except for the sunlight and water.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Devon+Island/@75.1982354,-81.8511819,3a,88.7y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipMUQWe4rM98g2cEclPbcpyScUJWjRIwsdohnq9Z!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMUQWe4rM98g2cEclPbcpyScUJWjRIwsdohnq9Z%3Dw121-h86-k-no!7i1000!8i710!4m7!3m6!1s0x4e270084b6ed7b8f:0x891e1b5bc476379!8m2!3d75.1982354!4d-81.8511818!10e5!16zL20vMDMzd2Ro?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      @Jolly It is quite interesting that you posted that. There was just another article about the Franklin expedition.

      https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/11/science/franklin-lost-expedition-cannibalism/index.html

      Archaeologists have identified the cannibalized remains of a senior officer who perished during an ill-fated 19th century Arctic expedition, offering insight into its lost crew’s tragic and grisly final days.

      and

      In April 1848, exactly three years after the vessels departed England, the expedition crew abandoned the ice-trapped ships following the death of Franklin and 23 other men. Fitzjames helped lead 105 survivors on a long retreat; the men pulled boats on sledges overland in the hope of finding safety. However, the men all lost their lives during the arduous journey although the exact circumstances of their deaths remain a mystery.

      “It went horribly wrong, horribly quickly,” said archaeologist Doug Stenton, an adjunct professor of anthropology at University of Waterloo in Canada, who led the research.

      Old exploring trips really fascinate me. One of the best books that I read on the subject was "In the Kingdom of Ice"

      https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/95/what-are-you-reading-now/78?_=1729215595068

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        Darn it! I had a really thoughtful reply here (I even wrote bullet points on paper as I was thinking about it) before the forum issue. Oh well. I think my points, similar to @taiwan_girl was:

        • I really enjoy viewing satellite maps, zooming in on remote towns around the world, viewing their stores (if they even have one) and other details
        • I went down the wikipedia blackhole about the northwest passage (NWP)
        • Further read about Amundsen and his trek to the south pole, then north pole, the 3-year journey to make it through the NWP.. even how he celebrated by docking in San Fran in 1906... but the town was a little busy with something that happened earlier in the year (the massive earthquake)

        I thought they should make a movie about Amundsen... guess they did make one (foreign film) in like 2019 that I'll have to check out

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          https://uwaterloo.ca/news/media/dna-matches-identify-four-more-sailors-franklin-expedition

          Researchers have identified four more members of Sir John Franklin's 1845 expedition, one of whom was the subject of great debate lasting for more than a century.

          Anthropologists from the Faculty of Arts at the University of Waterloo led the work that analyzed DNA samples extracted from skeletal remains and found matches with DNA donated by living descendants. These new discoveries bring the total number of identified sailors of the Franklin expedition to six.

          In April 1848, after the two Franklin expedition ships Erebus and Terror were frozen in Arctic ice for nearly two years, 105 survivors attempted to save themselves by walking and dragging boats on sleds along the west coast of King William Island, Nunavut. All 105 died trying to escape. Remains of expedition members have been found on King William Island and the Adelaide Peninsula since the mid-19th century.

          The additional identifications deepen our understanding of events that occurred during the final stages of the Franklin expedition and solve a 166-year-old mystery about the identity of one of the sailors.

          “Three of the sailors we have identified are from HMS Erebus, and they all died at Erebus Bay. The fourth, the only sailor from the HMS Terror to be definitively identified by DNA analysis, was found 130 kilometres away,” said Dr. Douglas Stenton, Adjunct Assistant Professor of anthropology at Waterloo.

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            Thank you for bumping my previous post. 🙂

            These are the stories I think of when I hear my kid complaining because a drop of milk spilled outside of their cereal bowl.

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              Yes, it is crazy what those guys went through.

              Not about the Franklin trip, but a really really good book about arctic explorers in the 1800's is "In The Kingdom of Ice". Highly recommend to read.

              In the late nineteenth century, people were obsessed by one of the last unmapped areas of the globe: The North Pole. No one knew what existed beyond the fortress of ice rimming the northern oceans.

              James Gordon Bennett, the eccentric and stupendously wealthy owner of The New York Herald, had recently captured the world's attention by dispatching Stanley to Africa to find Dr. Livingstone. Now he was keen to recreate that sensation on an even more epic scale. So he funded an official U.S. naval expedition to reach the Pole, choosing as its captain a young officer named George Washington De Long, who had gained fame for a rescue operation off the coast of Greenland. De Long led a team of 32 men deep into uncharted Arctic waters, carrying the aspirations of a young country burning to become a world power. On July 8, 1879, the USS Jeannette set sail from San Francisco to cheering crowds in the grip of "Arctic Fever."

              The ship sailed into uncharted seas, but soon was trapped in pack ice. Two years into the harrowing voyage, the hull was breached. Amid the rush of water and the shrieks of breaking wooden boards, the crew abandoned the ship. Less than an hour later, the Jeannette sank to the bottom, and the men found themselves marooned a thousand miles north of Siberia with only the barest supplies. Thus began their long march across the endless ice - a frozen hell in the most lonesome corner of the world. Facing everything from snow blindness and polar bears to ferocious storms and frosty labyrinths, the expedition battled madness and starvation as they desperately strove for survival.

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                Fascinating. And I complain out our winters. 😬

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  Yes, it is crazy what those guys went through.

                  Not about the Franklin trip, but a really really good book about arctic explorers in the 1800's is "In The Kingdom of Ice". Highly recommend to read.

                  In the late nineteenth century, people were obsessed by one of the last unmapped areas of the globe: The North Pole. No one knew what existed beyond the fortress of ice rimming the northern oceans.

                  James Gordon Bennett, the eccentric and stupendously wealthy owner of The New York Herald, had recently captured the world's attention by dispatching Stanley to Africa to find Dr. Livingstone. Now he was keen to recreate that sensation on an even more epic scale. So he funded an official U.S. naval expedition to reach the Pole, choosing as its captain a young officer named George Washington De Long, who had gained fame for a rescue operation off the coast of Greenland. De Long led a team of 32 men deep into uncharted Arctic waters, carrying the aspirations of a young country burning to become a world power. On July 8, 1879, the USS Jeannette set sail from San Francisco to cheering crowds in the grip of "Arctic Fever."

                  The ship sailed into uncharted seas, but soon was trapped in pack ice. Two years into the harrowing voyage, the hull was breached. Amid the rush of water and the shrieks of breaking wooden boards, the crew abandoned the ship. Less than an hour later, the Jeannette sank to the bottom, and the men found themselves marooned a thousand miles north of Siberia with only the barest supplies. Thus began their long march across the endless ice - a frozen hell in the most lonesome corner of the world. Facing everything from snow blindness and polar bears to ferocious storms and frosty labyrinths, the expedition battled madness and starvation as they desperately strove for survival.

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                  @taiwan_girl said:

                  No one knew what existed beyond the fortress of ice rimming the northern oceans.

                  I would have thought at least one person would have guessed the answer: more ice.

                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @taiwan_girl said:

                    No one knew what existed beyond the fortress of ice rimming the northern oceans.

                    I would have thought at least one person would have guessed the answer: more ice.

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                    @jon-nyc said:

                    @taiwan_girl said:

                    No one knew what existed beyond the fortress of ice rimming the northern oceans.

                    I would have thought at least one person would have guessed the answer: more ice.

                    One of the major theories at the time, was that at the top of the world, there was a tropical island surrounded by water, and there was the ring of ice that had to be broken through to reach the island.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @jon-nyc said:

                      @taiwan_girl said:

                      No one knew what existed beyond the fortress of ice rimming the northern oceans.

                      I would have thought at least one person would have guessed the answer: more ice.

                      One of the major theories at the time, was that at the top of the world, there was a tropical island surrounded by water, and there was the ring of ice that had to be broken through to reach the island.

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                      @taiwan_girl said:

                      @jon-nyc said:

                      @taiwan_girl said:

                      No one knew what existed beyond the fortress of ice rimming the northern oceans.

                      I would have thought at least one person would have guessed the answer: more ice.

                      One of the major theories at the time, was that at the top of the world, there was a tropical island surrounded by water, and there was the ring of ice that had to be broken through to reach the island.

                      The Democrats believed that but the Republicans knew it was just more ice.

                      Education is extremely important.

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