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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #42

    Way too well written for an insanity plea.

    Guys like him should write two of these - one for if he lives that makes him sound totally insane, and then a real one for if he dies.

    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote last edited by Renauda
      #43

      What a strange and twisted rationalisation to commit an act of infamy.

      Don’t care what anyone says, but this guy does not have both his oars in the water.

      Elbows up!

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      • Tom-KT Offline
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        #44

        Hugely damning of security for the President and the event. It makes you think that if he had some backup he could have done some real damage.

        I wonder why he was OK with Kash Patel?

        And that's not "anti-Christian" rhetoric as reported in the press. The guy is saying he IS a Christian and killing an oppressor is the kind of thing a Christian should do.

        Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #45

          That’ll resonate deeply with maybe a third of Americans. 95% of bluesky.

          I missed the dialectic about precedent and escalation in tribal politics. I guess he didn’t think that far.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #46

            It is remarkable he was taken down without getting shot.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • Tom-KT Tom-K

              Hugely damning of security for the President and the event. It makes you think that if he had some backup he could have done some real damage.

              I wonder why he was OK with Kash Patel?

              And that's not "anti-Christian" rhetoric as reported in the press. The guy is saying he IS a Christian and killing an oppressor is the kind of thing a Christian should do.

              jon-nycJ Online
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              wrote last edited by jon-nyc
              #47

              @Tom-K said:

              Hugely damning of security for the President and the event.

              Yes and no. He was caught and apprehended at the security checkpoint a floor away from the president. You can hardly expect them to apprehend people before they even get to the security perimeter.

              One can argue that they should have had a security perimeter outside the hotel but that would have probably required closing the hotel to other guests and events. And maybe that’s the right answer? Who knows.

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                It is remarkable he was taken down without getting shot.

                jon-nycJ Online
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                @Horace said:

                It is remarkable he was taken down without getting shot.

                Yeah. One gets the feeling their preference is to shoot. Perhaps there were just too many people near him and an agent happened to be behind him and could intervene physically relatively safely.

                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  #49

                  And I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes.

                  Sign of the times when a tribalist attempts to assassinate a person as vulnerable to legit criticism as Trump, and their list of reasons includes nothing actually legitimate. Man is our political culture broken.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • jodiJ Offline
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                    #50

                    Broken for sure.

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      #51

                      I find the shooter's strategy to run really fast through the first security checkpoint intriguing. He made it through, although I think about 50 feet later was tackled or something. Imagine if it comes out his name is Leeroy Jenkins?

                      I didn't read his manifesto, I try never to give the shooters any oxygen (name, face, manifesto...). Clearly I'm having an impact.

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        #52

                        It seems simply true that a larger group of well armed people could have succeeded where the lone gunman failed. Could have checked in the day before armed to the teeth, and could have neutralized the handful of SS agents with overwhelming force.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          I find the shooter's strategy to run really fast through the first security checkpoint intriguing. He made it through, although I think about 50 feet later was tackled or something. Imagine if it comes out his name is Leeroy Jenkins?

                          I didn't read his manifesto, I try never to give the shooters any oxygen (name, face, manifesto...). Clearly I'm having an impact.

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                          @89th said:

                          I find the shooter's strategy to run really fast through the first security checkpoint intriguing. He made it through, although I think about 50 feet later was tackled or something. Imagine if it comes out his name is Leeroy Jenkins?

                          I didn't read his manifesto, I try never to give the shooters any oxygen (name, face, manifesto...). Clearly I'm having an impact.

                          He isn't crazy. I can understand dismissing the ravings of a crazy person, but this manifesto was informative on a number of levels.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            It seems simply true that a larger group of well armed people could have succeeded where the lone gunman failed. Could have checked in the day before armed to the teeth, and could have neutralized the handful of SS agents with overwhelming force.

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #54

                            @Horace said:

                            It seems simply true that a larger group of well armed people could have succeeded where the lone gunman failed. Could have checked in the day before armed to the teeth, and could have neutralized the handful of SS agents with overwhelming force.

                            True. I bet if a van pulled up and a dozen guys wearing armor and using machine guns, they probably could've had one or two make it to the main stage. Who knows.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @89th said:

                              I find the shooter's strategy to run really fast through the first security checkpoint intriguing. He made it through, although I think about 50 feet later was tackled or something. Imagine if it comes out his name is Leeroy Jenkins?

                              I didn't read his manifesto, I try never to give the shooters any oxygen (name, face, manifesto...). Clearly I'm having an impact.

                              He isn't crazy. I can understand dismissing the ravings of a crazy person, but this manifesto was informative on a number of levels.

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                              @Horace said:

                              @89th said:

                              I find the shooter's strategy to run really fast through the first security checkpoint intriguing. He made it through, although I think about 50 feet later was tackled or something. Imagine if it comes out his name is Leeroy Jenkins?

                              I didn't read his manifesto, I try never to give the shooters any oxygen (name, face, manifesto...). Clearly I'm having an impact.

                              He isn't crazy. I can understand dismissing the ravings of a crazy person, but this manifesto was informative on a number of levels.

                              I agree he’s not kookoo crazy but rather crazed in his very own reality that leads to fanatic convictions and deeds. Probably not unlike your garden variety Islamacist suicide bomber.

                              After all, I don’t think he expected to come out his deed alive.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                @Horace said:

                                @89th said:

                                I find the shooter's strategy to run really fast through the first security checkpoint intriguing. He made it through, although I think about 50 feet later was tackled or something. Imagine if it comes out his name is Leeroy Jenkins?

                                I didn't read his manifesto, I try never to give the shooters any oxygen (name, face, manifesto...). Clearly I'm having an impact.

                                He isn't crazy. I can understand dismissing the ravings of a crazy person, but this manifesto was informative on a number of levels.

                                I agree he’s not kookoo crazy but rather crazed in his very own reality that leads to fanatic convictions and deeds. Probably not unlike your garden variety Islamacist suicide bomber.

                                After all, I don’t think he expected to come out his deed alive.

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #56

                                @Renauda said:

                                @Horace said:

                                @89th said:

                                I find the shooter's strategy to run really fast through the first security checkpoint intriguing. He made it through, although I think about 50 feet later was tackled or something. Imagine if it comes out his name is Leeroy Jenkins?

                                I didn't read his manifesto, I try never to give the shooters any oxygen (name, face, manifesto...). Clearly I'm having an impact.

                                He isn't crazy. I can understand dismissing the ravings of a crazy person, but this manifesto was informative on a number of levels.

                                I agree he’s not kookoo crazy but rather crazed in his very own reality that leads to fanatic convictions and deeds. Probably not unlike your garden variety Islamacist suicide bomber.

                                After all, I don’t think he expected to come out his deed alive.

                                Probably 9 times out of 10, he doesn't.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • 89th8 Offline
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                                  #57

                                  I re-watched the footage as he Leeroy Jenkins'd through security and my previous post is even more valid. All 10 or so security folks are chasing/watching Leeroy... imagine if Leeroy had another dozen folks behind him swarm in, no one would see them coming for a few seconds.

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                                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                                    @Horace said:

                                    @89th said:

                                    I find the shooter's strategy to run really fast through the first security checkpoint intriguing. He made it through, although I think about 50 feet later was tackled or something. Imagine if it comes out his name is Leeroy Jenkins?

                                    I didn't read his manifesto, I try never to give the shooters any oxygen (name, face, manifesto...). Clearly I'm having an impact.

                                    He isn't crazy. I can understand dismissing the ravings of a crazy person, but this manifesto was informative on a number of levels.

                                    I agree he’s not kookoo crazy but rather crazed in his very own reality that leads to fanatic convictions and deeds. Probably not unlike your garden variety Islamacist suicide bomber.

                                    After all, I don’t think he expected to come out his deed alive.

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                                    #58

                                    @Renauda said:

                                    @Horace said:

                                    @89th said:

                                    I find the shooter's strategy to run really fast through the first security checkpoint intriguing. He made it through, although I think about 50 feet later was tackled or something. Imagine if it comes out his name is Leeroy Jenkins?

                                    I didn't read his manifesto, I try never to give the shooters any oxygen (name, face, manifesto...). Clearly I'm having an impact.

                                    He isn't crazy. I can understand dismissing the ravings of a crazy person, but this manifesto was informative on a number of levels.

                                    I agree he’s not kookoo crazy but rather crazed in his very own reality that leads to fanatic convictions and deeds. Probably not unlike your garden variety Islamacist suicide bomber.

                                    After all, I don’t think he expected to come out his deed alive.

                                    I agree. Anybody who does something like that is crazy on some level. IMO, anybody who does something that is an "outlier" to normal society actions is somewhat crazy. The problem is when those actions become normal behavior in a society.

                                    On a lower level, stuff like when there is a riot, and people feel it is okay to go in and take stuff from stores. Shoplifting and then when they are challenged, get offended. Etc.

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                                      #59

                                      Rand Paul of all people is advancing a bill to expedite the ballroom.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        #60

                                        At no expense to the taxpayer. What his bill does is have the facility go through security reviews of some sort via Homeland Security.

                                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                          #61

                                          I don't think a President has made this much fuss about ballroom since Johnson's famous discussion with his tailor.

                                          I was only joking

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