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My recent health/fitness hiccup

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  • MikM Offline
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    You've really been quite stoic about the difficulties and side effects involved. I hope the return to cellcept goes smoothly. It's all tradeoffs i suppose.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      I should add that, with the exception of the second half of December when I was traveling and sick (lovely combo), I never stopped my 7 day a week gym routine. Yet I lost lots of muscle mass and experienced a material reduction in the weights I could push-pull-bench whatever. It doesn't matter how much protein you ingest if your intestines won't put it in your damn blood stream.

      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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      • MikM Offline
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        Yeah, I wondered about the travel. Makes it tough.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • MikM Mik

          Yeah, I wondered about the travel. Makes it tough.

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          @Mik said:

          Yeah, I wondered about the travel. Makes it tough.

          I generally try to keep up my exercise when traveling. For example with the boy on the west coast, I purposely chose hotels over Airbnbs so I could have gym access (I don't always do this but given the weight loss I wanted to this time). Of course their gyms sort of suck usually, but they're better than nothing.

          Tomorrow I'm off to Thailand and my Bangkok hotel has a gym. We'll spend four days at a resort in Krabi that doesn't but they do have bikes and I'll go for long brisk walks in the morning.

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            I will never understand the compulsion for travel, but I grant that women have it in general. Even while I was traveling in Florence, I did stay at a hotel with a "gym", but what a waste of space. One treadmill, dumbells that went to 50, maybe an elliptical. I purchased a day pass at a gym within walking distance instead. Walking distance from one part of Florence to another means that both points are within florence, but this gym was a 4 minute walk.

            The girl at the front couldn't have been more dismissive, as she spotted me as a tourist. Of course everybody in Florence is a tourist. It was a decent gym. Hot as hell on the top level with the free weights.

            I ended my workout on the treadmill on the first floor and sweated a fire hydrant as I do. Asked if they had water and she said no. I was aware of a store nearby and asked about it, just to see if I was dealing with someone who wanted to help. She said she didn't know. I went to get water from that store and she went outside to smoke. Eurotrash.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              In my experience in the US most hotel gyms (of the chain type) have dumbbells up to 50, a lonely bench or two, a tall pulley machine for doing the myriad things you can do with one of those, and a long line of treadmills. I usually see most people on the treadmills, maybe me and another middle aged guy using the weights. Unless I go in the afternoon, then it's just me.

              Some of the higher end hotels that are huge AND near large city conference centers have really impressive gyms. They look like a regular gym without the barbells (must be a liability issue). Vegas hotels also have some impressive gyms.

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                @jon-nyc what do you use the track the weight, just manually log it from a scale or something cooler? I think you have one of those body scan scales or something?

                Anyway, thanks for sharing, like @mik said, a world of tradeoffs. Are there foods that absorb more quickly that give bigger bang for the digestive buck? I can't imagine lifting too much will tip the scales (heh) compared to what your body can do on a whim, but still... you're doing what you can do and it's inspirational. And perspirational, too!

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  I have a cheap digital scale from Etekcity which connects to an app which connects to Apple health app. So as long as I have the scale sync app open when I weigh myself it flows through to Apple health automatically and immediately. The graph I posted came from Apple Health.

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                    I will never understand the compulsion for travel, but I grant that women have it in general. Even while I was traveling in Florence, I did stay at a hotel with a "gym", but what a waste of space. One treadmill, dumbells that went to 50, maybe an elliptical. I purchased a day pass at a gym within walking distance instead. Walking distance from one part of Florence to another means that both points are within florence, but this gym was a 4 minute walk.

                    The girl at the front couldn't have been more dismissive, as she spotted me as a tourist. Of course everybody in Florence is a tourist. It was a decent gym. Hot as hell on the top level with the free weights.

                    I ended my workout on the treadmill on the first floor and sweated a fire hydrant as I do. Asked if they had water and she said no. I was aware of a store nearby and asked about it, just to see if I was dealing with someone who wanted to help. She said she didn't know. I went to get water from that store and she went outside to smoke. Eurotrash.

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                    @Horace said:

                    I will never understand the compulsion for travel, but I grant that women have it in general. Even while I was traveling in Florence, I did stay at a hotel with a "gym", but what a waste of space.

                    I will never understand the compulsion for going to the gym. They're terrible places.

                    I was only joking

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                      Wow, that sounds awful but I'm glad it's looking better now.

                      What do you do to get to 4000kcal a day? That's a lot of food.

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                        I will gladly give you some extra weight. 😁

                        Sorry you are going through this. Hope it continues to get better.

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          Wow, that sounds awful but I'm glad it's looking better now.

                          What do you do to get to 4000kcal a day? That's a lot of food.

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                          @Klaus said:

                          Wow, that sounds awful but I'm glad it's looking better now.

                          What do you do to get to 4000kcal a day? That's a lot of food.

                          In the beginning I couldn’t pull off 3k and started drinking homemade shakes with milk, cream, whole milk yoghurt, oat flour, and peanut butter.

                          Then I sort of trained myself to eat more.

                          Typical day:
                          Breakfast 1 ~ 700 calories
                          bagel with 2 servings cream cheese (64g)
                          2 eggs
                          Yoghurt

                          Breakfast 2 (after gym) ~ 750
                          Calorie dense toasted muesli (I found a brand with 390cal in 85g, not sugar laden either)
                          Whole milk
                          Banana
                          30g protein shake

                          Lunch ~ 980
                          Turkey sandwich with 85g turkey and thick cheddar slices, generous mayo
                          60g peanuts
                          6 chocolate covered pretzels

                          Dinner ~ 1000
                          Baked potato with 2tbsp butter
                          Meat/fish 6-8oz
                          Veggie

                          Snack at night - 400-500
                          Peanut butter toast
                          Another yoghurt
                          Banana

                          Or

                          Ice cream

                          Those two breakfast and that lunch are pretty fixed so I get 2500 calories by mid day. Keep in mind I eke up before 5.

                          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                            Typical macro breakdown:

                            Protein 200-220
                            Fat: 160-190
                            Carbs: 350-450

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                            • KlausK Klaus

                              Wow, that sounds awful but I'm glad it's looking better now.

                              What do you do to get to 4000kcal a day? That's a lot of food.

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                              @Klaus said:

                              What do you do to get to 4000kcal a day?

                              Would have been epic had the answer been "pies."

                              Get well soon.

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