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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Horace said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

    @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    @AndyD said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    it's long overdue given the last 50 years of this dreadful Iranian regime conducting its war against westernised infidels.

    It's interesting to think how long he's been in power. I think Iran has had 4 leaders in 100+ years. I don't know of another country with that track record.

    Like the Steelers, only more successful.

    Pittsburgh has 6 World Championships and the most wins in the league since the 70’s… How many wins has Iran had since the 70s?

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    @LuFins-Dad said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

    @Horace said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

    @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    @AndyD said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    it's long overdue given the last 50 years of this dreadful Iranian regime conducting its war against westernised infidels.

    It's interesting to think how long he's been in power. I think Iran has had 4 leaders in 100+ years. I don't know of another country with that track record.

    Like the Steelers, only more successful.

    Pittsburgh has 6 World Championships and the most wins in the league since the 70’s… How many wins has Iran had since the 70s?

    I'm disappointed in 89th's post as well. I don't think the Steelers deserve that much hate.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      First US casualties reported.

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      @jon-nyc said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

      First US casualties reported.

      That's officially over the threshold of US casualties that most of the opposition are willing to allow, including on the right. Glenn Greenwald and Tucker among them.

      My biggest issue with those sorts of arguments is how unaligned they are with people who actually join the military. Imagine joining the army under the moral condition that no foreign entanglement will be worth it if a single member of the armed forces loses their life over it. Nobody joins with that assumption, and I just bet that most people who join aren't exactly dreading the prospect of seeing some dangerous action. It's so cheap to impose the attitudes of the mothers of the armed forces members onto the whole culture. And you know those guys aren't actually opposed to the wars on that basis. It's just rhetorically convenient.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Iran’s strategy seems to be to attack the gulf states indiscriminately hoping they’ll pressure the United States to stop its attack.

        If so it seems to be having the opposite effect.

        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        • MikM Away
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          Mortally wounded animals lash out at whatever they can.

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            Matt asks some reasonable questions.

            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              The above questions make me happy Israel is closely involved. I trust them to be more focused on this in the medium and long term than Trump and his appointees.

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                You can stop selling, Dugin, I already support regime change in Iran.

                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  The paranoia Dugin exhibits is rooted in Russia’s chronic inferiority complex. Expect more aggression from the Kremlin.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Matt asks some reasonable questions.

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                    @jon-nyc said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

                    Matt asks some reasonable questions.

                    Seems likely that whatever rushes in to fill the vacuum will be at least a little better than what was there. Obviously the new leaders will be living under a credible death threat from Israel and the USA, which I guess will motivate them to some extent.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      The above questions make me happy Israel is closely involved. I trust them to be more focused on this in the medium and long term than Trump and his appointees.

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                      @jon-nyc said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

                      The above questions make me happy Israel is closely involved. I trust them to be more focused on this in the medium and long term than Trump and his appointees.

                      And presumably you trust them to be more focused than the next Dem administration.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Yes, because while the next democratic administration will likely have a longer attention span, at the end of the day Israel will always have a lot more skin in the game. They can’t afford to cut bait if things get messy.

                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Yes, because while the next democratic administration will likely have a longer attention span, at the end of the day Israel will always have a lot more skin in the game. They can’t afford to cut bait if things get messy.

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                          @jon-nyc said in The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread:

                          Yes, because while the next democratic administration will likely have a longer attention span, at the end of the day Israel will always have a lot more skin in the game. They can’t afford to cut bait if things get messy.

                          If you get a Kamala or a Newsom you can count on the pro-israel stance to continue, but you might be avoiding discussing what happens when an anti-Israel POTUS occurs. It's obviously realistic within the next few elections.

                          I don't see why it's unrealistic for Tucker types or Dave Smith types to vote for an economic populist anti-Zionist Democrat.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • MikM Away
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                            "..the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain." Red, Shawshank Redemption

                            Still, the alternative was the status quo. I hardly think this will make things worse.

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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