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  • A AndyD

    @jon-nyc said in Reflections on college visits:

    He’s narrowed it down to either medicine or aerospace engineering. With a minor in music.

    That's quite amusing. At his age I also still had no realistic idea of what I actually wanted to do.

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    @AndyD said in Reflections on college visits:

    At his age I also still had no realistic idea of what I actually wanted to do.

    I still don't.

    I was only joking

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @blondie said in Reflections on college visits:

      (We colonists have to acknowledge & apologize).

      You're not a colonist and you don't owe anyone an apology.

      More generally, why is it we recognize how foul and dangerous it is to tie ethnicities to territories when the European right does it ("Blut und Boden") but somehow its ok when "First (sic) Nations" do it?

      Also, why is the second to last group to conquer a territory special? Why not third to last? Or fourth?

      The whole ideology is intellectually vacuous.

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      @jon-nyc said in Reflections on college visits:

      @blondie said in Reflections on college visits:

      (We colonists have to acknowledge & apologize).

      You're not a colonist and you don't owe anyone an apology.

      More generally, why is it we recognize how foul and dangerous it is to tie ethnicities to territories when the European right does it ("Blut und Boden") but somehow its ok when "First (sic) Nations" do it?

      Also, why is the second to last group to conquer a territory special? Why not third to last? Or fourth?

      The whole ideology is intellectually vacuous.

      Word up. There isn't a square mile of desirable land on this planet that hasn't been conquered and occupied, some many times over.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        I’m sure we can all agree to that. But not all the vacuousness comes from the left. The Zionism project rests on a vacuous appeal to some historical snapshot of real estate musical chairs as well. And of course their opponents’ perspective does too.

        But the only honest way to frame real estate ownership is whomever has the power gets the land. But modern humans don’t like honesty at that level so we talk around it with various euphemisms and falsehoods.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          By the way, we saw the college republicans setting up a booth at Berkeley. Brave young souls.

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          @jon-nyc said in Reflections on college visits:

          By the way, we saw the college republicans setting up a booth at Berkeley. Brave young souls.

          I have to wonder, were they Republicans before they went to the school? If so, kinda dumb choice unless they specifically want to be provocative. Or are they youth rebelling against the authority?

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @blondie said in Reflections on college visits:

            (We colonists have to acknowledge & apologize).

            You're not a colonist and you don't owe anyone an apology.

            More generally, why is it we recognize how foul and dangerous it is to tie ethnicities to territories when the European right does it ("Blut und Boden") but somehow its ok when "First (sic) Nations" do it?

            Also, why is the second to last group to conquer a territory special? Why not third to last? Or fourth?

            The whole ideology is intellectually vacuous.

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            @jon-nyc said in Reflections on college visits:

            @blondie said in Reflections on college visits:

            (We colonists have to acknowledge & apologize).

            You're not a colonist and you don't owe anyone an apology.

            More generally, why is it we recognize how foul and dangerous it is to tie ethnicities to territories when the European right does it ("Blut und Boden") but somehow its ok when "First (sic) Nations" do it?

            Also, why is the second to last group to conquer a territory special? Why not third to last? Or fourth?

            The whole ideology is intellectually vacuous.

            You expressed that very well… And may I point out that the far right’s approach to limiting immigration while railing against natives is equally idiotic?

            The Brad

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            • HoraceH Horace

              I’m sure we can all agree to that. But not all the vacuousness comes from the left. The Zionism project rests on a vacuous appeal to some historical snapshot of real estate musical chairs as well. And of course their opponents’ perspective does too.

              But the only honest way to frame real estate ownership is whomever has the power gets the land. But modern humans don’t like honesty at that level so we talk around it with various euphemisms and falsehoods.

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              @Horace said in Reflections on college visits:

              But the only honest way to frame real estate ownership is whomever has the power gets the land. But modern humans don’t like honesty at that level so we talk around it with various euphemisms and falsehoods.

              I’m not a very popular dad at the various kid groups and the parks we take Finley to. Inevitably, two little boys get in trouble and the mom’s start with that ridiculous “violence never solves anything” crap, and I feel compelled to correct them.

              The Brad

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                So you want to coldcock one of the moms?

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                • MikM Mik

                  So you want to coldcock one of the moms?

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                  @Mik said in Reflections on college visits:

                  So you want to coldcock one of the moms?

                  Based off their reactions, you would think I had.

                  The Brad

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                    Is that better than warmcock? Asking for a friend

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @Horace said in Reflections on college visits:

                      But the only honest way to frame real estate ownership is whomever has the power gets the land. But modern humans don’t like honesty at that level so we talk around it with various euphemisms and falsehoods.

                      I’m not a very popular dad at the various kid groups and the parks we take Finley to. Inevitably, two little boys get in trouble and the mom’s start with that ridiculous “violence never solves anything” crap, and I feel compelled to correct them.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Reflections on college visits:

                      @Horace said in Reflections on college visits:

                      But the only honest way to frame real estate ownership is whomever has the power gets the land. But modern humans don’t like honesty at that level so we talk around it with various euphemisms and falsehoods.

                      I’m not a very popular dad at the various kid groups and the parks we take Finley to. Inevitably, two little boys get in trouble and the mom’s start with that ridiculous “violence never solves anything” crap, and I feel compelled to correct them.

                      Ha just yesterday my 3 year old hit my 5 year old and he complained to me, I told him to just hit her back. Is that bad? She needs to learn there are consequences. At playgrounds it is remarkable how involved parents get at trying to keep the line fair at a slide or to intervene when kids fight, or to stop a kid from climbing the slide backwards. I am almost at the extreme side these days where I very much want my kids to figure it out and maybe I'm biased but my kids are usually the best behaved at these places now.

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                        Playground. A place for kids to explore and use their imagination, to try things, to test themselves. It should not be regimented.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          Is that better than warmcock? Asking for a friend

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                          @89th said in Reflections on college visits:

                          Is that better than warmcock? Asking for a friend

                          No but at Mik’s age it’s the best he can do.

                          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                            Well, this thread has gone far and wide.

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Well, this thread has gone far and wide.

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                              @Mik said in Reflections on college visits:

                              Well, this thread has gone far and wide.

                              How so? Warmcock and Campus visits go together…

                              The Brad

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                                I know I’m not a colonist.
                                But as Canuck, I still apologize. That’s almost genetic.
                                UBC is a fine university. Good nurses and doctors graduate from there. I’d rather do medicine there or see a doctor who graduated from there than Toronto. B.C. is expensive though. We’ve a saying, “B.C.” -> “Bring Cash” .

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  As I mentioned we visited:

                                  UBC Vancouver
                                  UC Berkeley
                                  UCLA
                                  USC
                                  UCSD

                                  First some general comments.

                                  I had no idea the percentage of new enrollees that are transfer students. I don’t remember seeing the figure for UBC so it might just be a US thing but the numbers were in the 25-35% range. I don’t know how much of that is people saving money by doing a two year degree first, or if it’s people who were rejected from their first choice, went to a Cal state school for a year or two, and tried again, vs people who just decided their original choice was not for them. I’m guessing #2 is the major portion.

                                  The language of ‘‘freshman, sophomore, junior, senior’ seems to have been largely superseded by ‘first year, second year…’. ChatGPT suggests that it started to change in the early woke era when someone noticed that the word “freshman” ended with ‘man’ and erroneously concluded that it therefore didn’t include women or any of the other 56 genders. You’d think a university would know better. Don’t they have a linguistics department?

                                  Land acknowledgements - we were spared these at UCSD and USC. UCLA was a short verbal one, Berkeley had a slide about it, and UBC is a giant continuous land acknowledgment with a small side business in education. O Canada!

                                  They even had a segregated building just for natives that was a modern take on first (sic) nation design. And they had street signs in English and - not French - some lab-grown transliterated native language made up of Latin letters, typewriter symbols , and child-like drawings. It was all I could do not to ask ‘is this purely performative or is there even a single non-academic that uses this’. But I already knew the answer so I spared the boy the embarrassment. .

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                                  Having said that, UBC was lovely. I’ve never seen a more beautiful campus setting.

                                  Berkeley I had been to recruiting for Credit Suisse but it was great to do the tour.

                                  (Will post this and continue later - we’re about to land and I’ll lose WiFi)

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                                  Land acknowledgements - we were spared these at UCSD and USC. UCLA was a short verbal one, Berkeley had a slide about it, and UBC is a giant continuous land acknowledgment with a small side business in education. O Canada!

                                  They even had a segregated building just for natives that was a modern take on first (sic) nation design. And they had street signs in English and - not French - some lab-grown transliterated native language made up of Latin letters, typewriter symbols , and child-like drawings. It was all I could do not to ask ‘is this purely performative or is there even a single non-academic that uses this’. But I already knew the answer so I spared the boy the embarrassment. .

                                  Jesus the mind virus is in full effect. I hope the boy doesn't choose to go there, I don't want to support this sort of discrimination financially.

                                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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