The Epstein File
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I have no doubt that there were such things as innocent trips to Epstein Island. It's established that visitors sometimes brought their families, including kids.
Education is extremely important.
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I have no doubt that there were such things as innocent trips to Epstein Island. It's established that visitors sometimes brought their families, including kids.
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
I have no doubt that there were such things as innocent trips to Epstein Island. It's established that visitors sometimes brought their families, including kids.
Nutlick’s stated on/off relationship with Epstein is the least of the reasons I think he’s a knuckleheaded sleaze. Still, given what he knew about the creep, Epstein, I cannot fathom why he, or anyone else who knew that Epstein was a degenerate, a pedophile and a pimp, would bring his wife and kids within 10 miles of Epstein’s fornication fortress on the sea.
Call me a judgemental prude.
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Ro Khanna read the names of six men that were in the files. One is Leslie Wexner who I know for a fact it as gay as they come and much too old even back then to be a threat.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/10/six-men-epstein-files-unredacted
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I have no doubt that there were such things as innocent trips to Epstein Island. It's established that visitors sometimes brought their families, including kids.
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
I have no doubt that there were such things as innocent trips to Epstein Island. It's established that visitors sometimes brought their families, including kids.
@jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:
Im sure he’s telling the whole truth this time and not just concocting the best possible story consistent with the facts that are public.
I agree with both of you. But........... in this case, he has something to hide it seems to me.
(again, I am amazed about Epstein. They were saying that there is something like 3MM files they are looking through. The guy seemed to know (or want to know) pretty much everybody! LOL)
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@jon-nyc The lady host looks like RFK's wife, but I am guessing it is not.
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I have no doubt that there were such things as innocent trips to Epstein Island. It's established that visitors sometimes brought their families, including kids.
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
I have no doubt that there were such things as innocent trips to Epstein Island. It's established that visitors sometimes brought their families, including kids.
Not after examining his "massage table" they didn't.
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I think Epstein had plenty of contacts who took no part in his sexual debauchery. Plenty who did and plenty who didn't. We've already had a documented case where a picture of some rich guy was in the files, and there were young kids next to him. Scandalous until it turned out that they were his kids. Whether Lutnick participated in the debauchery is taken as a given by the usual suspects, none of whom actually know.
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I think Epstein had plenty of contacts who took no part in his sexual debauchery. Plenty who did and plenty who didn't. We've already had a documented case where a picture of some rich guy was in the files, and there were young kids next to him. Scandalous until it turned out that they were his kids. Whether Lutnick participated in the debauchery is taken as a given by the usual suspects, none of whom actually know.
The issue with Lutnick is not whether he engaged in the debauchery. Rather it is that his own stories about his contact with Epstein are inconsistent and give rise to question Lutnick’s personal credibility regarding his now apparent ongoing relationship with the deceased felon.
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We also know that his original story was they best he could concoct given the public facts at the time. It was almost heroic. And a bold faced lie.
But I’m sure the second story, also the best one could come up with given the known facts today, is actually the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
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Meanwhile, it's still rational to concoct stories to distance yourself from the politically toxic guy, regardless of where on the spectrum the truth lies. We don't have to imagine that he participated in the sex stuff to rationalize why he would like to create more distance than there actually was.
But again, I'm not silly enough to try to convince any of the usual suspects that there's a chance their giddy imaginations are not correct.
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Truth has become a spectrum now? I thought conservatives didn't believe in moral relativism.
How long before one of them says 'Of course, those were different times....'?
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There's the rub. Epstein canoodled with just about everyone in those social circles. He had access. None of these things stand as evidence of wrongdoing. If you have evidence against individuals, bring it on. Otherwise, we risk smearing people who did nothing wrong. this thing has always been a tempest in a teapot. Rich people misbehaving. Who knew they do that?
"You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell
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