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Invading Greenland - suicide.

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  • MikM Offline
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    This by Brent Molnar, and it makes perfect sense.

    The Suicide Pact: What Happens the Moment We Touch Greenland…

    If the United States follows through on the threat to invade Greenland, we need to be crystal clear about what happens the next morning. This is not a real estate transaction or a routine military exercise. It is the geopolitical equivalent of pulling the pin on a grenade in a crowded elevator. The moment American boots hit the ground in Nuuk to seize territory from a fellow NATO member, the world as we know it ends. The consequences will not be temporary sanctions or angry letters. They will be total, permanent, and devastating.

    The first domino to fall is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization itself. NATO is built on the sacred promise of Article 5, that an attack on one is an attack on all. If the U.S. attacks Denmark, we are not just breaking the treaty; we are triggering it against ourselves. NATO dissolves instantly. The alliance that kept the peace in Europe for 75 years evaporates, leaving the continent to rearm and realign against the new aggressor across the Atlantic. We don't just lose an ally; we create a unified enemy.

    The military repercussions will be swift and humiliating. Europe will immediately demand the closure of every U.S. military base on the continent. Ramstein in Germany, Aviano in Italy, Lakenheath in the UK, all gone. Our ability to project power into the Middle East and Africa vanishes overnight. We will be evicted from the very soil we helped liberate and defended for decades, forced to retreat to our own shores as a fortress nation, isolated and friendless.

    Then comes the economic nuclear option. The European Union is the largest single market in the world, and they will weaponize it. Europe will likely move to call in U.S. debt and dump their dollar reserves, sending the value of our currency into a death spiral. The U.S. economy, which relies on the dollar being the global reserve currency, will collapse. Inflation will make the post-COVID spikes look like a rounding error. Your savings will be worthless before the ink dries on the invasion orders.

    Corporate America will face an extinction event. U.S. companies will be expelled from the European market. Apple, Google, McDonald's, and Tesla will see their assets seized or their operations banned. Trillions of dollars in market capitalization will be incinerated in minutes. The stock market will not just crash; it will close. We are talking about the complete de-globalization of American industry, cutting us off from the wealthiest consumers on the planet.

    The skies will go silent. European aviation authorities will almost certainly ground all Boeing jets and ban U.S. airlines from their airspace. Transatlantic travel will cease. If you are in Paris or Berlin, you are stuck there. The logistical arteries that feed our supply chains will be severed. We will be cut off from European medicine, machinery, and technology. We will be an island nation in the worst possible sense.

    The cultural isolation will be just as stinging. The International Olympic Committee and FIFA will have no choice but to bar the United States from competition, just as they did with Russia. There will be no World Cup matches in New Jersey. There will be no Team USA in the Olympics. We will be treated as a pariah state, unwelcome on the global stage, forced to watch the world celebrate without us.

    For individual Americans, the consequences will be personal and painful. Visa-free travel to Europe will end immediately. Americans currently living or working in Europe will lose their legal protections and residency status. They will become persona non grata, potentially facing deportation or internment. The "blue passport" that used to open every door will suddenly be a red flag at every border crossing.

    This is the end of trust, and it does not reset. You cannot invade a democratic ally and then say "my bad" four years later. The psychological break will be permanent. Europe will realize that the United States is no longer a partner but a predator. They will build their own defense architecture, their own financial systems, and their own alliances that specifically exclude us. The West will continue, but the United States will no longer be part of it.

    Invading Greenland is not a show of strength; it is an act of national suicide. We are trading our reputation, our economy, and our security for a frozen island and a handful of minerals we can't even process. The price of this real estate deal is everything we built over the last century. If we cross this line, there is no going back. We will be the lonely superpower, ruling over nothing but our own decline.

    By Brent Molnar

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      It's a bully move. NATO can't really exist without the USA, so what are they going to do. But yes, good analysis on the various ripple effects folks might not be thinking about.

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      • MikM Offline
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        This is a big ginned up issue. We have plenty of access to Greenland for the asking. I think he just wants the mineral wealth. Our relations with Europe greatly outweigh that.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          Yeah. Like I said too horrible to contemplate.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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            Apparently this is real.

            “We’re liable to wake up one morning and Donald, if he were president, would have nuked Denmark,” - Ted Cruz in 2016.

            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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            • MikM Mik

              This is a big ginned up issue. We have plenty of access to Greenland for the asking. I think he just wants the mineral wealth. Our relations with Europe greatly outweigh that.

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              @Mik said in Invading Greenland - suicide.:

              This is a big ginned up issue. We have plenty of access to Greenland for the asking. I think he just wants the mineral wealth. Our relations with Europe greatly outweigh that.

              That and what he desires to be his legacy.

              The Newfoundland Rock would be the next morsel on his menu.

              Putin will be so proud of his boy when NATO is dissolved over Greenland.

              Elbows up!

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              • MikM Offline
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                He goes for my ancestral homeland and it's fighting time.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  Renauda
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                  #8

                  I am now convinced he is out of his mind:

                  President Donald Trump on Friday threatened to place tariffs on nations that do not go along with his ambitions to annex Greenland.

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9qpy952xvno

                  Diplomacy by means of extortion. When and where and by whom have we seen this played out before?

                  Elbows up!

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    Just in time for the Supreme Court to rule on his tariff tantrum.

                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      I have a feeling SCOTUS is going the rein him in on that subject. He's just going too far on everything.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • Tom-KT Offline
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                        I want the Old United States again. Not always the best, but always trying to be. This idea of countries always going to the edge is what gets lots and lots of people killed if even a slight misstep is made. Where is George Herbert Bush when we need him?

                        Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Amen, Tom. GHWB was the most qualified president of my lifetime.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            You lived in the Eisenhower years. I’d give it to him.

                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                              I voted for GHWB in 88. That was my first election.

                              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Good sense for a kid.

                                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                  #16

                                  Not only unprincipled but no grip on reality:

                                  U.S. President Donald Trump said Saturday that he would charge a 10 per cent import tax starting in February on goods from eight European nations because of their opposition to American control of Greenland, setting up a potentially dangerous test of U.S. partnerships in Europe.

                                  https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/denmark-greenland-trump-us-9.7049902

                                  Better coverage:

                                  https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c1j8kw866p3t

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    And going to 25% in June.

                                    He’s going to end his presidency with a global boycott of American goods if he keeps this shit up.

                                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      Imagine arguing with a straight face that Congress seriously intended to give the president the power to impose "emergency" tariffs on imports from US treaty allies so he could forcibly acquire the territory of one of those allies.

                                      For fuck sake, scotus, end this next week.

                                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        And going to 25% in June.

                                        He’s going to end his presidency with a global boycott of American goods if he keeps this shit up.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Invading Greenland - suicide.:

                                        He’s going to end his presidency with a global boycott of American goods if he keeps this shit up.

                                        Elbows up Nato!

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          He goes for my ancestral homeland and it's fighting time.

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                                          @Mik said in Invading Greenland - suicide.:

                                          He goes for my ancestral homeland and it's fighting time.

                                          Wait a minute ... whose side will you be fighting for?

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