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The IRS doesn't fuck around

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    wrote last edited by jon-nyc
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    So for some inexplicable reason I underpaid my April 2024 estimated tax by 5k. Really I don't know why, my checks are always the same amount year after year. Probably a typo or brain fart, whatever you want to call it.

    I filed in October of 2025 and (without checking) put in what I thought were my estimated taxes paid, not realizing about the 5k underpayment.

    This week I got a notice in the mail - I owe them the 5k (fair enough) and interest of $798.86. But get this - a PENALTY of $4,412.49.

    So my 5k underpayment results in me writing a check of $9,768.35.

    FML.

    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
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      Appeal it.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        #3

        I might.

        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        • MikM Away
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          #4

          You should. The penalty is absurd. Do you have a good accountant or do you do it yourself?

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            When/how does someone need to do quarterly taxes? I always file and pay (or get paid) in April. This year I'm going to owe a lot for various company and investment reasons, wonder if that'll make me required to do quarterlies next year? I literally have no idea, I should ask TARS.

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              #6

              You'd best figure that out and send it in beforehand. if you wait you may be penalized. I'm sure you can find a calculator online.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • MikM Mik

                You should. The penalty is absurd. Do you have a good accountant or do you do it yourself?

                jon-nycJ Offline
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                @Mik said in The IRS doesn't fuck around:

                You should. The penalty is absurd. Do you have a good accountant or do you do it yourself?

                No, and yes. Lol

                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                • 89th8 89th

                  When/how does someone need to do quarterly taxes? I always file and pay (or get paid) in April. This year I'm going to owe a lot for various company and investment reasons, wonder if that'll make me required to do quarterlies next year? I literally have no idea, I should ask TARS.

                  jon-nycJ Offline
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                  @89th said in The IRS doesn't fuck around:

                  When/how does someone need to do quarterly taxes? I always file and pay (or get paid) in April. This year I'm going to owe a lot for various company and investment reasons, wonder if that'll make me required to do quarterlies next year? I literally have no idea, I should ask TARS.

                  Generally you have to keep you taxes paid throughout the year within a certain percentage of what you will end up owing (80 I think) or above what you actually owed the year before. For standard wage earners withholding covers that. If you have sufficient business income or investment income or other income for which no money is withheld that’s when it becomes necessary.

                  AI can give you the details.

                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  • A Offline
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                    AndyD
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                    Seems rather heavy handed . Are tax mistakes always so harshly punished?

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      #10

                      I think there’s something else going on. I’m still investigating. I’ve paid small penalties before never something that grabbed your attention.

                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      • MikM Away
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                        wrote last edited by Mik
                        #11

                        Me too, but they were modest, like $245 penalty for a $5,000 shortage.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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