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ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    wrote last edited by Renauda
    #49

    Spoke at length last evening with a very close friend who served thirty odd years on the Calgary Police Service. Some of those years with the tactical squad. Upon retirement the Service brought him back on contract to train police cadets on essentials of engagement and self defence.

    He made some very interesting comments about the incident. First and foremost is the LEO made a fundamental rookie error by walking directly behind and then in front of an engaged vehicle with its driver still behind the wheel and its engine running. Secondly, if they wished to apprehend the woman, placing one of their vehicles directly in front (and behind, if practicable) of her vehicle would immediately deny any egress for her by vehicle. In any event, he would not have handled the situation as these LEOs. She would have been told to immediately vacate the area and the police would deal with her later at her home or in a place away from the ongoing operation. The videos in circulation clearly demonstrate she and her partner’s mischief and obstruction acts did not pose any immediate physical threat to any officer or public on the scene.

    Elbows up!

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      #50

      Here there is court precedent that intentionally putting yourself in harms way doesn't make a subsequent shooting self defense. A recent case had a cop jump onto the running board of an escaping truck and then executing the driver and claiming self defense. The court looks at the 'totality of the situation' and found it unjustified.

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        I wouldn't place any stakes on the notion that there isn't an equal and opposite precedent.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Link to video

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            Zero chance ICE survives the next democratic administration. None whatsoever.

            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              It's a cliche to refer to people we don't like as fascists, but how else would you describe that guy's behaviour?

              I was only joking

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                Zero chance ICE survives the next democratic administration. None whatsoever.

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                @jon-nyc said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                Zero chance ICE survives the next democratic administration. None whatsoever.

                Well, once they have rid the nation of Hispanics, they'll have to find new areas to focus their efforts. They can ensure that voting is secure and safe for real Americans and that voting places close on time - vote counters leave when the election is called.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  It's a cliche to refer to people we don't like as fascists, but how else would you describe that guy's behaviour?

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                  It's a cliche to refer to people we don't like as fascists, but how else would you describe that guy's behaviour?

                  Privileged two-bit thuggery?

                  Elbows up!

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                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      They're starting to realize they fucked up.

                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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