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I love AI

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  • 89th8 89th

    Interesting commentary and perspective, Horace, I had a few funds left in my 2025 tech budget at work so I bought a computer monitor I’m gonna keep vertical mode and it’ll just be my AI slave throughout the day. I haven’t looked into it, but in my mind, I was going to purchase the Gemini pro subscription.

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    @89th Personally I'd choose Gemini. The subscriptions are the same price. But since I'm getting Gemini Pro for free for a year, I'm going to keep my ChatGPT subscription, so I'll have a more informed comparison over time.

    Education is extremely important.

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      My AI slave is set up. Servant? Whatever the term is. I have a month of Gemini Pro for free, so I'm trying it out, although at first glance if I don't need it for videos or complex logic/math, then maybe the free version is sufficient for my daily needs.

      It's funny, I did ask if it could create a PPT for me and it said it couldn't but could create the VBA macro that I could script in PPT and it'll convert it all to slides, haha.

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        I appear to be only one who wants nothing to do with this stuff.

        I feel a bit like an anti-vaxxer when it comes to this tech, except I suspect I'm right and that some of the horror stories people told about vaccines could essentially come true because of AI.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          I appear to be only one who wants nothing to do with this stuff.

          I feel a bit like an anti-vaxxer when it comes to this tech, except I suspect I'm right and that some of the horror stories people told about vaccines could essentially come true because of AI.

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          @Doctor-Phibes said in I love AI:

          I appear to be only one who wants nothing to do with this stuff.

          You will be replaced either by this stuff or by someone who does a lot of things with this stuff. But it's OK, you're nearing retirement and you said you will get a pension. All good for you! 👍 👍

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            I appear to be only one who wants nothing to do with this stuff.

            I feel a bit like an anti-vaxxer when it comes to this tech, except I suspect I'm right and that some of the horror stories people told about vaccines could essentially come true because of AI.

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            @Doctor-Phibes said in I love AI:

            I appear to be only one who wants nothing to do with this stuff.

            I feel a bit like an anti-vaxxer when it comes to this tech, except I suspect I'm right and that some of the horror stories people told about vaccines could essentially come true because of AI.

            I feel like a late adopter. A few weeks ago I had my moment where I had a large spreadsheet with a bunch of technical certifications associated with each person but each certificate had a different name, like "AWS Cloud Practitioner" or "Amazon Certified Cloud Practitioner" with the variation x100 so I just uploaded the file to
            Gemini and told it to give me a standardized list of titles so there's only one way to display a specific certification, and it did the work in about 5 minutes which saved me a few hours. Not only that but it referenced the industry-standard naming conventions (via web references) so it was actually a better output than if I had put my best guess on it.

            Anyway...........at that point I was like, why not have a digital servant ready to handle tedious tasks at my right side when I'm at work? I also use it as a super google search... like asking it for the best type of query for a specific software I use for big data, and it gives me the best query to use.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              I appear to be only one who wants nothing to do with this stuff.

              I feel a bit like an anti-vaxxer when it comes to this tech, except I suspect I'm right and that some of the horror stories people told about vaccines could essentially come true because of AI.

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              @Doctor-Phibes said in I love AI:

              I appear to be only one who wants nothing to do with this stuff.

              I feel a bit like an anti-vaxxer when it comes to this tech, except I suspect I'm right and that some of the horror stories people told about vaccines could essentially come true because of AI.

              I think the existential risk or other sorts of risks remain whether or not you choose to avail yourself of the personal advantages of AI.

              Education is extremely important.

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                For all you luddites, from Apple Computer, Inc., 1987:

                Link to video

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in I love AI:

                  I appear to be only one who wants nothing to do with this stuff.

                  I feel a bit like an anti-vaxxer when it comes to this tech, except I suspect I'm right and that some of the horror stories people told about vaccines could essentially come true because of AI.

                  I think the existential risk or other sorts of risks remain whether or not you choose to avail yourself of the personal advantages of AI.

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                  @Horace said in I love AI:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in I love AI:

                  I appear to be only one who wants nothing to do with this stuff.

                  I feel a bit like an anti-vaxxer when it comes to this tech, except I suspect I'm right and that some of the horror stories people told about vaccines could essentially come true because of AI.

                  I think the existential risk or other sorts of risks remain whether or not you choose to avail yourself of the personal advantages of AI.

                  Yes, clearly. That doesn't mean I need to embrace the soulless machine.

                  I did notice at work that a number of the first people using AI were those who I would have privately and quietly describe as "B-players". I daresay in a year or two we'll all be using the fucking thing. I just hate hearing how much better it's going to make my life, when clearly it's not.

                  20 years from now nobody will know how to do much of anything other than ask software to solve problems for them.

                  I was only joking

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                    I can imagine try hard strivers were most excited to adopt the advantage. But for a technical person such as a coder to not use AI at this point would be career suicide.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      I have yet to avail myself - voluntarily at least- of the technology. Much prefer to do my own sleuth work sifting and sorting as I have always done in past. Despite my preference, I do not see AI as an existential threat, let alone a risk to civilisation although it could very well end up as a all too convenient crutch for young adults looking to be spoon fed knowledge and too lazy to develop research skills on their own.

                      Elbows up!

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                        That's my concern as well. It could be a serious blow to inquisitiveness in the species.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                          It's not just inquisiviteness, it will lead to nobody being able to actually do anything.

                          I know people (OK, I've seen people on the internet) who think that becoming good at Guitar Hero on the Playstation is essentially the same as learning to play a musical instrument. Suno is already trying to persuade us that real creativity is using their bloody software, which is a bit like claiming that Count Franz von Walsegg zu Stuppach is the real creative genius behind Mozart's Requiem.

                          I guess I'm filling in for Aqua. I miss that guy.

                          I was only joking

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                            The ability to critically think without instantaneous answers or prompts will be a rarity for sure. Teachers have already said it's a very dim future regarding that specific skill.

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              The ability to critically think without instantaneous answers or prompts will be a rarity for sure. Teachers have already said it's a very dim future regarding that specific skill.

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                              @89th said in I love AI:

                              The ability to critically think without instantaneous answers or prompts will be a rarity for sure. Teachers have already said it's a very dim future regarding that specific skill.

                              It's already noticeably harder to find good candidates who don't spend half the day looking at their phones. This isn't going to help, however we've now got software to surf the internet for us, so it won't matter.

                              I was only joking

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                                The ability to critically think without instantaneous answers or prompts will be a rarity for sure. Teachers have already said it's a very dim future regarding that specific skill.

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                                @89th said in I love AI:

                                The ability to critically think without instantaneous answers or prompts will be a rarity for sure. Teachers have already said it's a very dim future regarding that specific skill.

                                I’m old enough to remember when elementary schools freaked out about the existence of inexpensive calculators.

                                It’s also typical that people take some time to realize that they don’t need to teach people as if the new ubiquitous technology doesn’t exist.

                                In NY some driver’s road test proctors cover your back up mirror when you parallel park even though they have been mandated in all US cars for a decade.

                                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                  Insightful examples. Maybe it just changes how we prompt for answers but even today when Gemini spits out a long answer I still have to, ugh, read it.

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                                    My furnace for the last few years throws a weird error a few times each winter. Very, very, very long story short, I've had it serviced a few times, no one can figure it out, and I'm not about to say AI figured it out but after a number of valuable prompts (based on information I've learned over the years), it is remarkable how clear and helpful the troubleshooting (and likely solutions) it gives.... vs what the technician might find (and perhaps be the same content) except when a technician spits out all of the facts and possible solutions to you within a minute, it's hard to really understand everything.

                                    I have a service appt tomorrow, and I'm coming ready with facts and (I think) helpful questions.

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                                      Just like physicians who hate it when patients come in with internet knowledge, your HVAC tech will hate you.

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                        In these situations I still manage to phrase it as a question so I bow to his expertise. Even if I’m giving him the answer.

                                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                          Great minds think alike. i do the same thing.

                                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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