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Ben Shapiro's salvo in the internecine right wing pundit war

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    For the tl;dw crowd among us:

    Here’s a fair-minded summary of what Ben Shapiro actually said at the Turning Point USA (TPUSA) AmericaFest 2025 event, based on multiple news reports from today’s coverage:

    🔥 Core Themes of Shapiro’s Speech

    1. Strong critique of fellow conservative media figures
      Shapiro used his platform to publicly call out other conservative commentators, notably:
      • Tucker Carlson — He criticized Carlson for giving a platform to controversial figures such as Nick Fuentes, calling that choice morally wrong and accusing Carlson of elevating extremists rather than challenging them. 
      • Candace Owens — He condemned Owens for spreading baseless conspiracy theories, particularly about the assassination of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk, which Shapiro said were harmful and unfounded. 
      • Megyn Kelly and others — Shapiro also chastised media personalities for failing to condemn these conspiracy theories and instead offering excuses for them, which he deemed cowardice or complicity. 

    Overall, he labeled some of these figures as “frauds” and “grifters” (words circulating in press summaries of his remarks). 

    1. Emphasis on truth and intellectual consistency
      Shapiro framed his speech as a call for conservatives and commentators to uphold honesty, moral clarity, and principled discourse, rather than amplifying sensationalism or conspiratorial rhetoric. 

    2. Defense of core conservative values
      He reportedly stressed that winning the broader political and cultural battles depends on sticking to truth and responsibility—not on extremism or unverified claims. 

    3. Part of wider tension and infighting at the event
      Shapiro’s speech occurred amid visible internal disputes among conservatives at AmericaFest, especially after Charlie Kirk’s death in September and debates over how his legacy should influence the movement’s direction. Other speakers (like Carlson) pushed back against Shapiro’s critiques onstage. 

    ⸻

    🧠 What He Didn’t Focus On
    • He did not deliver a traditional policy address or a broad ideological manifesto; most commentary centers on his scrutiny of personalities and rhetoric within the conservative sphere at the conference.
    • The central thrust wasn’t election strategy or specific legislation—it was the tone and character of conservative media and movement figures.

    ⸻

    🧩 Context Around the Event

    The TPUSA AmericaFest has become a flashpoint for conservative factional disputes, including disagreements over conspiracy theories, free speech boundaries, and the influence of far-right voices. Shapiro’s remarks reflect that broader context of division. 

    ⸻

    If you want, I can pull up direct quotes from his speech or link you to clips/highlights from multiple outlets.

    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      He did at least call Megyn Kelly a friend who he maintains some respect for. Owens are Carlson are of course pure garbage to him.

      His own colleague (or should I say employee) Matt Walsh recently appeared on Carlson's show, as a respectful friend who doesn't feel compelled to agree with everything his friends say. It's a complicated social circle.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        He did at least call Megyn Kelly a friend who he maintains some respect for. Owens are Carlson are of course pure garbage to him.

        His own colleague (or should I say employee) Matt Walsh recently appeared on Carlson's show, as a respectful friend who doesn't feel compelled to agree with everything his friends say. It's a complicated social circle.

        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Doctor Phibes
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        @Horace said in Ben Shapiro's salvo in the internecine right wing pundit war:

        It's a complicated social circle.

        One thing they presumably all have in common is that they're raking in the cash.

        Or am I just being cynical?

        I was only joking

        LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          The thought crosses everybody's mind I'm sure.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @Horace said in Ben Shapiro's salvo in the internecine right wing pundit war:

            It's a complicated social circle.

            One thing they presumably all have in common is that they're raking in the cash.

            Or am I just being cynical?

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            @Doctor-Phibes said in Ben Shapiro's salvo in the internecine right wing pundit war:

            @Horace said in Ben Shapiro's salvo in the internecine right wing pundit war:

            It's a complicated social circle.

            One thing they presumably all have in common is that they're raking in the cash.

            Or am I just being cynical?

            Only because they won… DW really put themselves out on a limb when they first started out. They were being demonetized and deplatformed. They were even being pressured politely by right-wing media to back off their stances. They nearly folded, but doubled down. I don Begrudge them their success.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Ben Shapiro's salvo in the internecine right wing pundit war:

              @Horace said in Ben Shapiro's salvo in the internecine right wing pundit war:

              It's a complicated social circle.

              One thing they presumably all have in common is that they're raking in the cash.

              Or am I just being cynical?

              Only because they won… DW really put themselves out on a limb when they first started out. They were being demonetized and deplatformed. They were even being pressured politely by right-wing media to back off their stances. They nearly folded, but doubled down. I don Begrudge them their success.

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              @LuFins-Dad said in Ben Shapiro's salvo in the internecine right wing pundit war:

              Only because they won… DW really put themselves out on a limb when they first started out. They were being demonetized and deplatformed. They were even being pressured politely by right-wing media to back off their stances. They nearly folded, but doubled down. I don Begrudge them their success.

              I wasn't just talking about Daily Wire, but all the commentators. In fact, I was really talking more about Carlson and Owens, who if they're not primarily chasing money should probably be forcibly hospitalized.

              I was only joking

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  One would hope she is self-marginalizing, even if she has a devoted audience large enough to get very wealthy on.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Once again, I'm left with the impression that she's none too bright, as well of course as being just a horrendous human being.

                    I was only joking

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      I don’t follow every word said, but overall I’d place all my chips behind the intelligence and brilliance that is Ben Shapiro. Rarely have I listened to him and disagreed with his point and his mind is on a different processing level than most.

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