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A weapon of mass destruction….

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Can cigarettes be far behind?

    I was only joking

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      He said 200,000 to 300,000 fentanyl deaths in the USA each year, which is why it's a WMD now. Pay not attention that the real number is about 75,000, whereas booze-related deaths are 180,000 (and yes, cigarettes cause 480,000 deaths).

      So to recap:

      • Tobacco = 480,000, not a bomb.
      • Alcohol = 175,000, not a bomb.
      • Fentanyl = 75,000, yes a bomb.
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        Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's focusing on the issue. And maybe it's the only way to get it done, but why does he have to lie about everything? Or maybe it's a perverse chess move to be able to shoot boat runners?

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        • 89th8 89th

          Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's focusing on the issue. And maybe it's the only way to get it done, but why does he have to lie about everything? Or maybe it's a perverse chess move to be able to shoot boat runners?

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          @89th said in A weapon of mass destruction….:

          Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's focusing on the issue. And maybe it's the only way to get it done, but why does he have to lie about everything? Or maybe it's a perverse chess move to be able to shoot boat runners?

          It's just the typical act of making a drama out of a crisis. It's what politicians do.

          Obviously, it's not going to fix the problem - there would need to be a big cultural shift to do that. And like the poor, drug addicts are always with us, poor devils. At least they don't get locked up as often as they used to.

          I was only joking

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            I mean for fixing the problem, it statistically peaked 2 or 3 years ago and has been on the decline, so whatever Biden put in place there seems to have moved momentum in the right direction.

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              Locking them up can be the catalyst for getting clean.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                Locking them up can be the catalyst for getting clean.

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                @Mik said in A weapon of mass destruction….:

                Locking them up can be the catalyst for getting clean.

                I don't think the statistics really bear that out. The US has higher incarceration rates than many countries, and a lot more drug addicts.

                I was only joking

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                  My concern is that this is a pretense for something. Whether invading Venezuela or military action inside Mexico.

                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    My concern is that this is a pretense for something. Whether invading Venezuela or military action inside Mexico.

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                    @jon-nyc said in A weapon of mass destruction….:

                    My concern is that this is a pretense for something. Whether invading Venezuela or military action inside Mexico.

                    Not the most unlikely thing I've heard today.

                    I was only joking

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                      My concern is that this is a pretense for something. Whether invading Venezuela or military action inside Mexico.

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                      said in A weapon of mass destruction….:

                      Whether invading Venezuela …

                      Which doesn’t really produce fentanyl but cocaine isn’t really what’s killing white rural young men, and besides that would be awkward two weeks after pardoning the guy who moved 400 tons of it into the US. Oh, and choosing a former coke dealer as your HHS secretary.

                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                        @89th said in A weapon of mass destruction….:

                        Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's focusing on the issue. And maybe it's the only way to get it done, but why does he have to lie about everything? Or maybe it's a perverse chess move to be able to shoot boat runners?

                        It's just the typical act of making a drama out of a crisis. It's what politicians do.

                        Obviously, it's not going to fix the problem - there would need to be a big cultural shift to do that. And like the poor, drug addicts are always with us, poor devils. At least they don't get locked up as often as they used to.

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                        @Doctor-Phibes

                        It's just the typical act of making a drama out of a crisis. It's what politicians do.

                        Up here we refer to it as performance politics. The Trudeau government knew very little about accountable governance but a lot about the gimmickry of performance.

                        Elbows up!

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