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Ceding the Working Class

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #3

    Yes, when I see the common notion about Trump's lack of "empathy for average people", it strikes me as ludicrous. The left appeals to average people by convincing them that the only way to be virtuous is to vote Democrat. The left's empathy is obsessively focused on the stereotypically oppressed. As of course it would have to be, if one was looking to maximize emotional manipulation of the masses.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Funny I watched most of the convention and I’ll bet this one had far more ‘regular people’ than any other in history.

      The online format made that possible. How many ‘regular people’ can you put on a stage in front of 10k people?

      My guess is when the writer of this piece saw the many many working class people he didn’t label that way, rather he labeled them based on ethnicity.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Funny I watched most of the convention and I’ll bet this one had far more ‘regular people’ than any other in history.

        The online format made that possible. How many ‘regular people’ can you put on a stage in front of 10k people?

        My guess is when the writer of this piece saw the many many working class people he didn’t label that way, rather he labeled them based on ethnicity.

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        @jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:

        Funny I watched most of the convention and I’ll bet this one had far more ‘regular people’ than any other in history.

        The online format made that possible. How many ‘regular people’ can you put on a stage in front of 10k people?

        My guess is when the writer of this piece saw the many many working class people he didn’t label that way, rather he labeled them based on ethnicity.

        I saw some of the online format. Some of those folks weren't working class. They were just plain weird...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • LarryL Offline
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          @jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:

          Funny I watched most of the convention and I’ll bet this one had far more ‘regular people’ than any other in history.

          The online format made that possible. How many ‘regular people’ can you put on a stage in front of 10k people?

          My guess is when the writer of this piece saw the many many working class people he didn’t label that way, rather he labeled them based on ethnicity.

          I'd hardly call the deviant freaks they had online "regular people". But they did show us how dangerous the democrats have become. These freaks relished their chance to say the pledge of allegiance and omit the "under God" part.

          Sexually confused sissies and deviant perverts are not "regular people". These are mentally ill individuals, unhappy with who they are. In fact, democrats in general are an unhappy bunch of losers.

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            #7

            Careful Larry, Horace is going to call you a liar.

            They didn’t leave out ‘under god’.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Careful Larry, Horace is going to call you a liar.

              They didn’t leave out ‘under god’.

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              #8

              @jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:

              Careful Larry, Horace is going to call you a liar.

              They didn’t leave out ‘under god’.

              Yes they did. I saw 4 different ones recite the pledge, and when they came to the "under God" they made it an obvious point that it was being left out on purpose.

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                #9

                Unleash it on him, Horace!!!

                https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/22/fact-check-dnc-did-not-omit-under-god-pledge-allegiance/3419308001/

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • LarryL Offline
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                  #10

                  Get your facts straight, and stop trying to switch from one thing to the other. We were not talking about the convention speaker. You were talking about the "regular people" online. That would be the caucuses. I PERSONALLY watched 4 different sick fucks say the pledge as they began their caucus meeting, and every damned one of them made it a POINT to omit "under God".

                  Now I know you're not a stupid man, so stop acting like one.

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                    #11

                    Oh look, it came from the liar-in-chief.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      jon, I bet you can't even find a falsehood in Trump's speeches as important and defaming of a political side as Biden's. If your attempt at whataboutism is a post on TNCR, well, thanks for the respect but I don't find them equally important or worthy of commentary.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        #13

                        @Larry Look at the video in the USA Today fact check. It shows all the ‘regular folk’ saying the phrase.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Unleash it on him, Horace!!!

                          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/22/fact-check-dnc-did-not-omit-under-god-pledge-allegiance/3419308001/

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                          @jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:

                          Unleash it on him, Horace!!!

                          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/22/fact-check-dnc-did-not-omit-under-god-pledge-allegiance/3419308001/

                          You're right. In the broadcasted parts of the DNC convention, you know, the parts which the public saw, "under God" was included. In several committee meetings (not available to the public) it was omitted.

                          IOW: Say it if you want people to think what you mean, but behind closed doors....

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @Larry Look at the video in the USA Today fact check. It shows all the ‘regular folk’ saying the phrase.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:

                            @Larry Look at the video in the USA Today fact check. It shows all the ‘regular folk’ saying the phrase.

                            USA Today is one of the last places I'd turn to for checking facts. I know what I saw. Perhaps you need to stop getting all your information from propaganda.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:

                              Unleash it on him, Horace!!!

                              https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/22/fact-check-dnc-did-not-omit-under-god-pledge-allegiance/3419308001/

                              You're right. In the broadcasted parts of the DNC convention, you know, the parts which the public saw, "under God" was included. In several committee meetings (not available to the public) it was omitted.

                              IOW: Say it if you want people to think what you mean, but behind closed doors....

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                              #16

                              @George-K said in Ceding the Working Class:

                              @jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:

                              Unleash it on him, Horace!!!

                              https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/22/fact-check-dnc-did-not-omit-under-god-pledge-allegiance/3419308001/

                              You're right. In the broadcasted parts of the DNC convention, you know, the parts which the public saw, "under God" was included. In several committee meetings (not available to the public) it was omitted.

                              IOW: Say it if you want people to think what you mean, but behind closed doors....

                              Exactly. The thing is, Jon knows this.

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                "During two of those meetings – the LGBTQ caucus meeting and the Muslim Delegates Assembly – when the pledge was recited, "under God" was omitted"

                                Why are gays and Muslims against saying "under God?"....

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  #18

                                  I’m sorry Horace I thought maybe you’d be consistent In classifying willful ignorance as lying. I should have known better.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    in fairness, most of jon's non-TNCR friends would believe that Trump voters, behind closed doors, support Nazis and all those people. And I doubt jon goes out of his way to correct them. Not because he doesn't know better, but because he wouldn't want to be painted as someone who secretly likes Nazis.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      I’m sorry Horace I thought maybe you’d be consistent In classifying willful ignorance as lying. I should have known better.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:

                                      I’m sorry Horace I thought maybe you’d be consistent In classifying willful ignorance as lying. I should have known better.

                                      Willful ignorance is lying, and if Larry or anybody else was being willfully ignorant of anything, they were lying. I'm not convinced he was.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Ok Larry, so you’re conceding the Democratic ‘regular guys’ did say it.

                                        Just want to clear that up.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          This makes two things you lied about and then tried to accuse me of ignorance, Jon. Don't do it again or I'll make you listen to Ax play the piano for an hour...

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