John Wayne's Inspiration
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 22:25 last edited by
That's great. I did know that some of the Old West figures hung around Hollywood.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:12 last edited by
Shame about avoiding war service.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:15 last edited by Larry
@jon-nyc said in John Wayne's Inspiration:
Shame about avoiding war service.
You need to check your facts. He didn't "avoid" war service.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:17 last edited by jon-nyc
What is it with your heroes and pussying out of combat, Larry?
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:23 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in John Wayne's Inspiration:
What is it with your heroes and pussying out of war, Larry?
He was exempted out of service because of his age and his family status, the same as thousand upon thousands of other men at the time. What is it with your need to smear every fucking man who is a conservative, Mr. "I'm a centrist"?
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:28 last edited by jon-nyc
Honestly I have nothing against him. I liked him in his roles. I really do think it’s a shame, it left a bit of a mark in him and I’ll bet he regretted it in hindsight.
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Honestly I have nothing against him. I liked him in his roles. I really do think it’s a shame, it left a bit of a mark in him and I’ll bet he regretted it in hindsight.
wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:32 last edited by@jon-nyc said in John Wayne's Inspiration:
Honestly I have nothing against him. I liked him in his roles. I really do think it’s a shame, it left a bit of a mark in him and I’ll bet he regretted it in hindsight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne#Stagecoach_and_the_war_years
Wayne was exempted from service due to his age (34 at the time of Pearl Harbor) and family status (classified as 3-A – family deferment). Wayne repeatedly wrote to John Ford saying he wanted to enlist, on one occasion inquiring whether he could get into Ford's military unit, but consistently kept postponing it until after "he finished just one or two pictures".[36] Wayne did not attempt to prevent his reclassification as 1-A (draft eligible), but Republic Studios was emphatically resistant to losing him since he was their only A-list actor under contract. Herbert J. Yates, President of Republic, threatened Wayne with a lawsuit if he walked away from his contract, and Republic Pictures intervened in the Selective Service process, requesting Wayne's further deferment.
U.S. National Archives records indicate that Wayne, in fact, did make an application to serve in the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), precursor to the modern CIA, and had been accepted within the U.S. Army's allotted billet to the OSS. William J. Donovan, OSS Commander, wrote Wayne a letter informing him of his acceptance into the Field Photographic Unit, but the letter went to his estranged wife Josephine's home. She never told him about it. Wayne toured U.S. bases and hospitals in the South Pacific for three months in 1943 and 1944.[40] with the USO. During this trip, he carried out a request from Donovan to assess whether General Douglas MacArthur, commander of the South West Pacific Area, or his staff were hindering the work of the OSS.[20]:88 Donovan later issued Wayne an OSS Certificate of Service to memorialize Wayne's contribution to the OSS mission.
By many accounts, his failure to serve in the military later became the most painful part of his life. His widow later suggested that his patriotism in later decades sprang from guilt, writing: "He would become a 'superpatriot' for the rest of his life trying to atone for staying home."
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:32 last edited by Larry
Why should it when what you're saying is a fucking lie, Jon?
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:35 last edited by
I didn’t say he dodged the draft, I said he avoided service.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:40 last edited by
You can parse it however you want. Either way, it's still a fucking lie. And you well know it.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 04:19 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in John Wayne's Inspiration:
What is it with your heroes and pussying out of combat, Larry?
What a crock.
What year were you packing a rifle for a living?
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 04:25 last edited by
I don’t think I’m one of Larry’s heroes. At least not that he’ll admit to.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 04:26 last edited by
How about you Jolly? What’s your service record?
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 04:29 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in John Wayne's Inspiration:
How about you Jolly? What’s your service record?
Never served. In fact, never had to register, since I fall in the gap years. Wasn't looking forward to it, since guys just a few years older than me were enjoying their 13-month vacations in sunny Southeast Asia.
Now, does that make me a pussy?
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 05:05 last edited by
The Wiki on the 1940 Selective Service act...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Training_and_Service_Act_of_1940
BTW, 16,000,000 guys served in WW2. 10,000,000 were drafted.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 13:52 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in John Wayne's Inspiration:
I don’t think I’m one of Larry’s heroes. At least not that he’ll admit to.
I like you just fine, Jon. Just don't piss down my leg and tell me it's raining.
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 14:03 last edited by
Telling jon not to gaslight people is like telling Ax not to soar high above the Serengeti with a golden trophy strapped to his back, hunting for plump, juicy bunnies. Some people are just born to do certain things.