Ah the beautiful words from our President
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The pendulum swings in ever wider arcs, sadly. But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
"You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell
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The pendulum swings in ever wider arcs, sadly. But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
Happy Thanksgiving! Would like to see you quote specific example(s) of "the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off" so I can compare which is more offensive. Thank you!
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@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
Happy Thanksgiving! Would like to see you quote specific example(s) of "the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off" so I can compare which is more offensive. Thank you!
@Axtremus said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
Happy Thanksgiving! Would like to see you quote specific example(s) of "the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off" so I can compare which is more offensive. Thank you!
Simply because you don't care (it doesn't trip your trigger), when various woke nonsense crosses your plate, does not obligate the world to rub your nose in nonsense at every turn. I think we can all stipulate that the level of triggering you receive when confronted with arbitrary woke nonsense, does not rise to any level at which you'd post negatively about it. But you're about the most reserved long term poster here, the most protective of all personal things, and obviously there's nothing much interesting there to protect, but you just want to turtle your personal things, because you're afraid not to. You met so many people. You know the impression I got when I met you? That you were still reserved and private. It's interesting when you brag about meeting so many people. You're perfectly content to just stay entirely reserved in any face to face interaction. It's not an uncommon social skill, in fact it runs in my family. But it does calibrate the meaning of face to face interactions.
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@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
Happy Thanksgiving! Would like to see you quote specific example(s) of "the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off" so I can compare which is more offensive. Thank you!
@Axtremus said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
Happy Thanksgiving! Would like to see you quote specific example(s) of "the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off" so I can compare which is more offensive. Thank you!
I’m sure you would love to have me do that work, but I have no great desire to again belabor the obvious. You do not need that to understand my point.
"You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell
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The pendulum swings in ever wider arcs, sadly. But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
The pendulum swings in ever wider arcs, sadly. But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
Good point about the wider arcs.
The politician lying spectrum goes from spin to exaggerations to lying to vulgar lying. Trump has clearly shown where he’s at.
It’s funny misspelling potato used to be controversial, and calling someone a macaca used to destroy political hopes.
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@Axtremus said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
Happy Thanksgiving! Would like to see you quote specific example(s) of "the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off" so I can compare which is more offensive. Thank you!
I’m sure you would love to have me do that work, but I have no great desire to again belabor the obvious. You do not need that to understand my point.
@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
… the obvious. You do not need that to understand my point.
You assume it (whatever it is) to be obvious, maybe it’s obvious only in your mind. Without clear expression, no one knows what you’re talking about.
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@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
The pendulum swings in ever wider arcs, sadly. But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
Good point about the wider arcs.
The politician lying spectrum goes from spin to exaggerations to lying to vulgar lying. Trump has clearly shown where he’s at.
It’s funny misspelling potato used to be controversial, and calling someone a macaca used to destroy political hopes.
@89th said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
It’s funny misspelling potato used to be controversial
Who can forget Obama wearing a tan suit?
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@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
Happy Thanksgiving! Would like to see you quote specific example(s) of "the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off" so I can compare which is more offensive. Thank you!
@Axtremus said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
Happy Thanksgiving! Would like to see you quote specific example(s) of "the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off" so I can compare which is more offensive. Thank you!
Men can get pregnant.
The Brad
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@Axtremus said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
But I do not find his statements more offensive that the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off.
Happy Thanksgiving! Would like to see you quote specific example(s) of "the feelgood, ignore reality fucking lies the other side tries to pawn off" so I can compare which is more offensive. Thank you!
Men can get pregnant.
@LuFins-Dad said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
Men can get pregnant.
This quote is less offensive than the remarks quoted in the opening post.
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How about 'Racial discrimination is ok, in fact it's morally required, as long as you get the valence right.'
@jon-nyc said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
How about 'Racial discrimination is ok, in fact it's morally required, as long as you get the valence right.'
About as offensive as the remarks quoted in the opening post.
Did you get that quote from somewhere or you just paraphrased?
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In practice the believers tend to euphemise it. Though Ibrahm X Kendi is honest enough to call it discrimination and has certainly expressed the same sentiment as the quote.
The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.
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Example: ‘The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination’.
It doesn’t take much reading of him to figure out that he thinks that such discrimination is a moral imperative.
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In practice the believers tend to euphemise it. Though Ibrahm X Kendi is honest enough to call it discrimination and has certainly expressed the same sentiment as the quote.
In practice the believers tend to euphemise it.
One recalls on this very discussion board, the euphemistic two-bit thug epithet to characterise the 44th President. I believe it was reprised, in a now appreciable rare appearance here, in another thread by its erstwhile author just these past few days.
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He's massively overreacting to the shooting in DC. One, count them, one, Afghan refugee went nuts.
From Gemini:
how many of the afghan refugees from the end of the war have committed crimes here
It is difficult to provide an exact, comprehensive number of crimes committed specifically by Afghan evacuees from the 2021 evacuation because:
Public data does not typically break down crime statistics by specific refugee or humanitarian parole group. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and other agencies track arrests and convictions for "criminal aliens," but this data is generally categorized by broader metrics like immigration status or type of crime, not by country of origin for recent refugee cohorts.
A Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Inspector General audit did identify a small number of Afghan evacuees who were either on or added to the terrorist watchlist as of May 2023. Specifically:
55 Afghan evacuees were identified by the Terrorist Screening Center (TSC) as of May 2023.
As of July 2024, nine of these evacuees reportedly remained on the watchlist and were being tracked. The remaining 46 were removed after the FBI determined they were no longer considered a threat.
Broader Context on Immigrants and Crime:
General research on crime rates among immigrants, including unauthorized immigrants, and the U.S.-born population consistently finds that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the United States.
One study indicated that U.S. natives are 11.6 times more likely to be incarcerated than Afghan immigrants as a whole (a figure that predates the 2021 evacuation but provides context on the broader Afghan immigrant community).
Another study found no statistically significant correlation between an increased immigrant share of the population and an increase in the total crime rate.
While there is no single, publicly released number for criminal convictions among the tens of thousands of Afghans evacuated since 2021, the vetting process for the evacuees has been a significant point of review by federal oversight agencies.
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He's massively overreacting to the shooting in DC. One, count them, one, Afghan refugee went nuts.
From Gemini:
how many of the afghan refugees from the end of the war have committed crimes here
It is difficult to provide an exact, comprehensive number of crimes committed specifically by Afghan evacuees from the 2021 evacuation because:
Public data does not typically break down crime statistics by specific refugee or humanitarian parole group. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and other agencies track arrests and convictions for "criminal aliens," but this data is generally categorized by broader metrics like immigration status or type of crime, not by country of origin for recent refugee cohorts.
A Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Inspector General audit did identify a small number of Afghan evacuees who were either on or added to the terrorist watchlist as of May 2023. Specifically:
55 Afghan evacuees were identified by the Terrorist Screening Center (TSC) as of May 2023.
As of July 2024, nine of these evacuees reportedly remained on the watchlist and were being tracked. The remaining 46 were removed after the FBI determined they were no longer considered a threat.
Broader Context on Immigrants and Crime:
General research on crime rates among immigrants, including unauthorized immigrants, and the U.S.-born population consistently finds that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the United States.
One study indicated that U.S. natives are 11.6 times more likely to be incarcerated than Afghan immigrants as a whole (a figure that predates the 2021 evacuation but provides context on the broader Afghan immigrant community).
Another study found no statistically significant correlation between an increased immigrant share of the population and an increase in the total crime rate.
While there is no single, publicly released number for criminal convictions among the tens of thousands of Afghans evacuated since 2021, the vetting process for the evacuees has been a significant point of review by federal oversight agencies.
@Mik said in Ah the beautiful words from our President:
He's massively overreacting to the shooting in DC
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