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This is hilarious.

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  • KlausK Klaus

    I wonder if she believes her own BS.

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    @Klaus said in This is hilarious.:

    I wonder if she believes her own BS.

    If you acknowledge that humans are believing machines more than truth seeking machines, the question loses relevance. People can be motivated by all the old standard things to believe whatever, and they can still believe it, in the face of an IQ and information that would logically contradict their belief.

    Education is extremely important.

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      One can imagine thought experiments, the classic gun-to-the-head scenario, where Candace is told to bet, one way or another, on the truth of a certain claim. Her children's lives are at stake. Would her bet be the same as Candace professed before? That thought experiment remains incoherent, because the gun-to-her-kid's-head Candace is not the same person as the Candace in front of the microphone. You are interrogating the belief of one thing, and assuming it's the same as the belief of the other thing. The difference between the two things is interesting, and predictable, but it does not impute true "belief" to one or the other. Their motivations are different, and belief is generally motivated.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Heraclitus tells us you can’t interrogate the same Candice Owens twice.

        “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

        • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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          One can imagine thought experiments, the classic gun-to-the-head scenario, where Candace is told to bet, one way or another, on the truth of a certain claim. Her children's lives are at stake. Would her bet be the same as Candace professed before? That thought experiment remains incoherent, because the gun-to-her-kid's-head Candace is not the same person as the Candace in front of the microphone. You are interrogating the belief of one thing, and assuming it's the same as the belief of the other thing. The difference between the two things is interesting, and predictable, but it does not impute true "belief" to one or the other. Their motivations are different, and belief is generally motivated.

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          @Horace

          What a tortuous way of reaffirming Klaus’ trenchant rhetorical question.

          Elbows up!

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @Horace

            What a tortuous way of reaffirming Klaus’ trenchant rhetorical question.

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            @Renauda said in This is hilarious.:

            @Horace

            What a tortuous way of reaffirming Klaus’ trenchant rhetorical question.

            No, that's bullshit. I interrogated the trenchant question. You're welcome to do so yourself. I didn't get any of those insights from books.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Regardless, it was still a tortuous interrogation.

              And no, I’m not all that interested.

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                Regardless, it was still a tortuous interrogation.

                And no, I’m not all that interested.

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                @Renauda said in This is hilarious.:

                Regardless, it was still a tortuous interrogation.

                And no, I’m not all that interested.

                Well the human condition does not rise large over your persona here, unless it's the fact that rage and vindictiveness dominates.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Would you like a saddle for your high horse?

                  Elbows up!

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    No I probably just want to fight there, and then I'd die. You know, the human condition.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Yes, of course. You’ll get over it.

                      Elbows up!

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                        So we have to choose between a Candace who is a cynical liar and one who is completely fucking nuts.

                        Neither seems like a good reason to listen to her show.

                        I was only joking

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