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This is hilarious.

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    Read Charles Cooke’s post in full. Bengals reference and all.

    “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

    • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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    • MikM Offline
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      #2

      Well crafted and very, very deserved on the part of his target.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        I wonder if Candace's fanbase will notice the irony in what he's saying or take it literally.

        I was only joking

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          My familiarity with Candace's wackier ideas extends as far as I listen directly to Candace. I've never heard anybody else propagate them. But I know she has a large listener base. So did Art Bell. That doesn't mean his listeners would have sworn up and down to the stuff he used to believe.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • KlausK Offline
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            I wonder if she believes her own BS.

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              My familiarity with Candace's wackier ideas extends as far as I listen directly to Candace. I've never heard anybody else propagate them. But I know she has a large listener base. So did Art Bell. That doesn't mean his listeners would have sworn up and down to the stuff he used to believe.

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              @Horace said in This is hilarious.:

              My familiarity with Candace's wackier ideas extends as far as I listen directly to Candace. I've never heard anybody else propagate them. But I know she has a large listener base. So did Art Bell. That doesn't mean his listeners would have sworn up and down to the stuff he used to believe.

              Presumably at least some of her fans must believe her. I mean, flat-earthers are a thing, so why not the Magnificent Candace?

              I was only joking

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              • HoraceH Horace

                My familiarity with Candace's wackier ideas extends as far as I listen directly to Candace. I've never heard anybody else propagate them. But I know she has a large listener base. So did Art Bell. That doesn't mean his listeners would have sworn up and down to the stuff he used to believe.

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                @Horace

                But I know she has a large listener base. So did Art Bell. That doesn't mean his listeners would have sworn up and down to the stuff he used to believe.

                I recall sitting around a campfire one summer evening listening to a local farmer go on and on about the hidden and covered up truths showcased on Art Bell’s radio show - the mystery of Mel’s Hole (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel's_Hole) in particular.

                Elbows up!

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  I wonder if she believes her own BS.

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                  @Klaus said in This is hilarious.:

                  I wonder if she believes her own BS.

                  If you acknowledge that humans are believing machines more than truth seeking machines, the question loses relevance. People can be motivated by all the old standard things to believe whatever, and they can still believe it, in the face of an IQ and information that would logically contradict their belief.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    One can imagine thought experiments, the classic gun-to-the-head scenario, where Candace is told to bet, one way or another, on the truth of a certain claim. Her children's lives are at stake. Would her bet be the same as Candace professed before? That thought experiment remains incoherent, because the gun-to-her-kid's-head Candace is not the same person as the Candace in front of the microphone. You are interrogating the belief of one thing, and assuming it's the same as the belief of the other thing. The difference between the two things is interesting, and predictable, but it does not impute true "belief" to one or the other. Their motivations are different, and belief is generally motivated.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Heraclitus tells us you can’t interrogate the same Candice Owens twice.

                      “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                      • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        One can imagine thought experiments, the classic gun-to-the-head scenario, where Candace is told to bet, one way or another, on the truth of a certain claim. Her children's lives are at stake. Would her bet be the same as Candace professed before? That thought experiment remains incoherent, because the gun-to-her-kid's-head Candace is not the same person as the Candace in front of the microphone. You are interrogating the belief of one thing, and assuming it's the same as the belief of the other thing. The difference between the two things is interesting, and predictable, but it does not impute true "belief" to one or the other. Their motivations are different, and belief is generally motivated.

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                        @Horace

                        What a tortuous way of reaffirming Klaus’ trenchant rhetorical question.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          @Horace

                          What a tortuous way of reaffirming Klaus’ trenchant rhetorical question.

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                          @Renauda said in This is hilarious.:

                          @Horace

                          What a tortuous way of reaffirming Klaus’ trenchant rhetorical question.

                          No, that's bullshit. I interrogated the trenchant question. You're welcome to do so yourself. I didn't get any of those insights from books.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Regardless, it was still a tortuous interrogation.

                            And no, I’m not all that interested.

                            Elbows up!

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                              Regardless, it was still a tortuous interrogation.

                              And no, I’m not all that interested.

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                              @Renauda said in This is hilarious.:

                              Regardless, it was still a tortuous interrogation.

                              And no, I’m not all that interested.

                              Well the human condition does not rise large over your persona here, unless it's the fact that rage and vindictiveness dominates.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Would you like a saddle for your high horse?

                                Elbows up!

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                                  No I probably just want to fight there, and then I'd die. You know, the human condition.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Yes, of course. You’ll get over it.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      So we have to choose between a Candace who is a cynical liar and one who is completely fucking nuts.

                                      Neither seems like a good reason to listen to her show.

                                      I was only joking

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