Retro by Sec. Trans.

[jon-nyc]

He’s not wrong but yeah hard to imagine this YouTube video turning things around.

[Doctor Phibes]

Maybe a push towards greater civility in all works of life will be the big driver for Trump's second term.

[Mik]

That would be the height of irony.

[bachophile]

a bit retarded. in the 50's and 60's airtravel was a luxury. for the wealthy. the equivalent of first class in ocean travel (think titanic)
seats were roomy. food was restaurant style. everyone was civil.
now its just another form of steerage class (think titanic) hell.

on the up side, planes are a lot safer than they used to be. so less chance of ending up in icy water (think titanic)

[jon-nyc]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Retro by Sec. Trans.:

Maybe a push towards greater civility in all works of life will be the big driver for Trump's second term.

It certainly seems to be the unifying theme of the administration.

[Mik]

@jon-nyc said in Retro by Sec. Trans.:

He’s not wrong bit yeah hard to imagine this YouTube video turning things around.

No, he’s not but I have very seldom experienced incivility on planes. Aside from some kid kicking the back of my seat, it’s really only been last Christmas flight to Vegas that had to stop in KC because of a passenger’s unfortunate statement about a gun.

There was one time at DFW after mass weather cancellations I swiped some guy’s cab to get to a hotel. It was a pretty dog eat dog night there. Ground transportation was overwhelmed.

[jon-nyc]

But bach has a point. The first class lounge is far more civilized than the waiting area at gate 15B

[Mik]

And that goes back to steamship travel.

[Axtremus]

Jack up the ticket prices and passengers will be more civilized, right?

[Mik]

Already tried that. Didn't work.

[Axtremus]

Bigger seats, then. As posited in the opening post:

Civility is easier when there is more space between you and the other passengers.

That's what I noticed in the video when they show air travel in the old days.

[Doctor Phibes]

@bachophile said in Retro by Sec. Trans.:

a bit retarded

Maybe that will be the big driver for Trump's second term.

[LuFins Dad]

@Axtremus said in Retro by Sec. Trans.:

Sec. Trans. Duffy's retro PSA:

Link to video

Civility is good. Civility is easier when there is more space between you and the other passengers.

Does anyone miss Mayor Sec. Trans. Pete?

I don’t think he was Trans, just gay.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Retro by Sec. Trans.:

He’s not wrong but yeah hard to imagine this YouTube video turning things around.

It’s not like there aren’t thousands of PSAs out there. I’m sure Pete Buttgeigh made similar pointless PSAs, but they weren’t focused on title hammered on like anything from this administration.

[Axtremus]

@LuFins-Dad said in Retro by Sec. Trans.:

I’m sure Pete Buttgeigh made similar pointless PSAs, ...

I searched for "pete buttigieg transportation PSA" on YouTube and found no such PSA. Maybe you can find one; please post here if/when you do. Thanks.

[LuFins Dad]

Well no wonder.. You misspelled it.

[jon-nyc]

This fits in this thread about the democratization of air travel.

My anecdote, I got my first passport at 21. My son got his first at 4 months.

[bachophile]

I like the Covid dip. Looks like the Hillary step on Everest.

[jon-nyc]

I’m curious what it looked like from 1960-1990. Obviously it didn’t have a slope like that.

[jon-nyc]

That steep slope in the 2005-10 era was when Americans started to need a passport to travel to US, Mexico, and the Caribbean