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Glad the free speech folks are in charge

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  • HoraceH Online
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    Horace
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    #216

    I actually haven't heard any mainstream right punditry that supports the administration on the FCC threat.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      #217

      Trump’s 15B lawsuit against the NYT was thrown out today as being improper.

      It’s an 85 page document and it’s not until page 80 that he mentions his first legal complaint.

      This first 80 pages are all puffery about how awesome Trump is and a catalog of grievances against the world for not recognizing it.

      They have a month to file something professional.

      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        • HoraceH Online
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          Cancel culture vs consequence culture is a distinction that’s been making the rounds in right wing punditry. But it’s a little too nuanced for Trump to speak to, despite the valiant efforts of that reporter.

          Education is extremely important.

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            #220

            @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

            He has NO IDEA what free speech even means.

            Also, why do you think 95% of the stories are negative, Donald?

            Also, I remember the media being incredible bullies with Bush too, it comes with the job.

            Finally oh the irony that he’s again peddling a false story.

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              They want Pravda.

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              • AxtremusA Offline
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                Tucker Carlson:

                https://ca.news.yahoo.com/tucker-carlson-says-trump-administration-140957975.html

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                  A stopped clock is right twice a day.

                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    Start at 3:45

                    Link to video

                    The Brad

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                    • AxtremusA Offline
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                      From the Netherlands:

                      Link to video

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        Start at 3:45

                        Link to video

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                        Start at 3:45

                        Listen from 0:00. The whole thing is good.

                        ABC - Always Be Caving

                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                          Start at 3:45

                          Listen from 0:00. The whole thing is good.

                          ABC - Always Be Caving

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                          @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                          Start at 3:45

                          Listen from 0:00. The whole thing is good.

                          ABC - Always Be Caving

                          Meh, I remember Maher’s cancellation. That was organic and consequential. This was in the era that everybody was rallying around the US military and the leadership, everybody was pissed, angry, and scared after 9/11, and Maher was out there calling the terrorists “Warriors” and seemed to be questioning the heart and ability of US soldiers. That firing was driven by advertisers pulling, viewership complaining, and was a lot not more expected and natural of a result.

                          The Brad

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                            Thanks for sharing LD, good commentary (and wit) from Maher as always.

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                              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                #230

                                Chomsky once said “I’m all for free speech but….” isn’t some middle ground. It’s how the anti-free speech side has always been expressed.

                                In woke times I loved pulling that out to lefties who wanted to ban hate speech speech they hated. Because invariably they claimed Chomsky as a kindred spirit and it caused them palpable discomfort to imagine themselves on the other side of this issue from him.

                                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                  https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1135689774572837

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Chomsky once said “I’m all for free speech but….” isn’t some middle ground. It’s how the anti-free speech side has always been expressed.

                                    In woke times I loved pulling that out to lefties who wanted to ban hate speech speech they hated. Because invariably they claimed Chomsky as a kindred spirit and it caused them palpable discomfort to imagine themselves on the other side of this issue from him.

                                    HoraceH Online
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                                    @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                    Chomsky once said “I’m all for free speech but….” isn’t some middle ground. It’s how the anti-free speech side has always been expressed.

                                    It's not a categorically wrong beginning of a sentence, as I think most people agree that free speech absolutism is incoherent with other commonly accepted rights. Of course as Bondi fumbled around about "hate speech", she was as wrong about that as the left always has been. And the mainstream right pundit class rejected it.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Yes one could phrase a prohibition of libel that way, for example. But Chomsky was referring to what we constantly saw among the woke left and, now that they have institutional power, the woke right. Namely a category of speech they find particularly offensive to them.

                                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                        Words aren’t violence. Violence is violence. In this case, pretending that Kirk’s words were violence created actual violence.

                                        The Brad

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                                          What’s your evidence that the killer thought Kirk’s words were violence? I only saw him labeling them as hateful. The same designation your party’s leaders are giving to words that they don’t like.

                                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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