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Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Only LD took it seriously. Jolly whattabouted me and you interrogated my motives or my psychology for the temerity of asking the question before trying to get me to turn the question into a declarative statement. Presumably so you could compliment me on my insights.

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    @jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

    Only LD took it seriously. Jolly whattabouted me and you interrogated my motives or my psychology for the temerity of asking the question.

    Simply not true. I attempted to remove the contempt from your question and asked you to give your thoughts on the good faith version, a version which you allowed was pretty accurate. The contempt in the discussion came from you, as is generally the case.

    Education is extremely important.

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      There was no contempt in my question. I even said ‘Trumpist’ instead of ‘Magat’.

      I get you took issue with ‘Trumpist’ but the question was specifically about the Trump supporting subset of the vaccine hesitant so I needed a qualifier.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        There was no contempt in my question. I even said ‘Trumpist’ instead of ‘Magat’.

        I get you took issue with ‘Trumpist’ but the question was specifically about the Trump supporting subset of the vaccine hesitant so I needed a qualifier.

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        @jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

        There was no contempt in my question. I even said ‘Trumpist’ instead of ‘Magat’.

        I get you took issue with ‘Trumpist’ but the question was specifically about the Trump supporting subset of the vaccine hesitant so I needed a qualifier.

        You were always cagey about whatever you meant by “Trumpist”, and it did not mean just anybody who voted for him. It was an expression of contempt for you, probably close in meaning to “cultist”. I’m not sure Magat was part of the lexicon at the time.

        In any case, your memory of the question being treated with contempt, is a false one. I cared so much for the question that I attempted to salvage the anodyne ideas from it, for discussion.

        Education is extremely important.

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          You ignored the question and tried to make me the subject of discussion. Like you’ve done for many years, since the JDS took hold.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            I plainly took the question and reframed it in well understood terms, without your opaque pejoratives confusing the issue, I admitted not knowing the answer, and asked for your thoughts about it. Now over the years your persecution complex has turned the exchange into one where your honest attempts at discussion were treated with contempt. Yes your psychology will forever be a valid subject for discussion here as you continue to wallpaper the forum with your hatred and contempt, year after year.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              There was no contempt in my question. I even said ‘Trumpist’ instead of ‘Magat’.

              I get you took issue with ‘Trumpist’ but the question was specifically about the Trump supporting subset of the vaccine hesitant so I needed a qualifier.

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              @jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

              There was no contempt in my question. I even said ‘Trumpist’ instead of ‘Magat’.

              I get you took issue with ‘Trumpist’ but the question was specifically about the Trump supporting subset of the vaccine hesitant so I needed a qualifier.

              I personally prefer the term Trumpeter since it involves a loud noise as well as extended periods of blowing.

              I was only joking

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                @jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

                There was no contempt in my question. I even said ‘Trumpist’ instead of ‘Magat’.

                I get you took issue with ‘Trumpist’ but the question was specifically about the Trump supporting subset of the vaccine hesitant so I needed a qualifier.

                You were always cagey about whatever you meant by “Trumpist”, and it did not mean just anybody who voted for him. It was an expression of contempt for you, probably close in meaning to “cultist”. I’m not sure Magat was part of the lexicon at the time.

                In any case, your memory of the question being treated with contempt, is a false one. I cared so much for the question that I attempted to salvage the anodyne ideas from it, for discussion.

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                @Horace said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

                You were always cagey about whatever you meant by “Trumpist”

                Not to nit pick, but I believe the correct title is a trumpeter.

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                  Dammit.... the doc was faster AND wittier than me.

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                    @Horace said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

                    You were always cagey about whatever you meant by “Trumpist”

                    Not to nit pick, but I believe the correct title is a trumpeter.

                    1f16eef3-73dc-42e2-965b-9ad73b574a35-image.png

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                    Horace:
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                    Jolly:
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                    I was only joking

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                      (Seems more appropriate to talk about this in this MAHA thread.)

                      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                      Ax - You should stop asking him until RFK’s policies have time to metastasize. Presumably LD thinks dead kids is a worse outcome than transed kids so, assuming nobody stops RFK, LD will come around in time.

                      Just like sometimes some people value certain principles more than life itself (e.g., "give me freedom or give me death," certain cultures would rather their daughters be dead rather than shamed), I have not rule out @LuFins-Dad won't have similarly firm conviction on the trans issue.

                      The Texas measles outbreak haven't changed the minds of the anti-vaxx parents after all. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/18/us/politics/vaccine-mandates-covid-measles.html

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