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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
    wrote last edited by 89th
    #1

    Makes sense, and for some reason, I immediately thought of @Mik and @LuFins-Dad here, among others of course. The link should work without needing to log into Instagram.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOnYrhED8c4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
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      Spot on.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Link won’t open for me. I am not on Instagram

        Elbows up!

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          The only thing I’d take exception to is his downplaying the MAGA base.

          First of all, it’s (probably) his sample bias showing when he says ‘most Trump voters are…’. I’m guessing no one in his neighborhood has attended a Trump rally except with a press credential.

          But the other reason is the Trump voters he described would have rather voted for (say) DeSantis. If it were up to the people he describes, Trump wouldn’t be president because he wouldn’t have won the primary.

          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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          • MikM Away
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            Only if they thought Desantis or someone else had a serious chance. They didn't and never did.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • 89th8 89th

              Makes sense, and for some reason, I immediately thought of @Mik and @LuFins-Dad here, among others of course. The link should work without needing to log into Instagram.

              https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOnYrhED8c4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

              HoraceH Offline
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              @89th said in David Brooks on Trump voters:

              I immediately thought of @Mik and @LuFins-Dad here

              What were they wearing?

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                It's good to hear Brooks at a slightly dialed down fever pitch of sanctimony. He has not always sounded like that over the past years.

                I certainly would have preferred DeSantis. But I don't vote in primaries.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  @89th said in David Brooks on Trump voters:

                  I immediately thought of @Mik and @LuFins-Dad here

                  What were they wearing?

                  89th8 Offline
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                  @Horace said in David Brooks on Trump voters:

                  @89th said in David Brooks on Trump voters:

                  I immediately thought of @Mik and @LuFins-Dad here

                  What were they wearing?

                  Funny thing...

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    Link won’t open for me. I am not on Instagram

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                    @Renauda said in David Brooks on Trump voters:

                    Link won’t open for me. I am not on Instagram

                    Me neither, but it was able to open up for me.

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                    • AxtremusA Away
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                      Link to video

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                      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                        We need @Larry here to say that the fact that China has not placed ANY orders for US soybeans this year yet (and they generally buy 30(?)%) and cost of production for soybeans and corn is higher than selling price is a good thing for farmers. LOL

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                          https://www.axios.com/local/chicago/2025/09/25/trump-trade-war-illinois-farmers-soybeans-argentina-china?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axioslocal_chicago&stream=top

                          The Trump administration threw Argentina a financial life raft this week, and Argentina promptly responded by offering China an enticement in the form of untaxed soybeans.

                          Why it matters: Illinois farmers stand to lose big. We grow more soybeans than any other state and formerly counted China as our No. 1 soy market.

                          But amid President Trump's current trade war, Chinese orders for this year's U.S. soybean harvest stand at zero while Brazil and Argentina reap the rewards.

                          State of play: Argentina suspended its 26% soybean export tax this week, leading China to double its Argentine soybean purchases overnight.

                          The move further prices out U.S. soybean farmers, who are already grappling with a 20% retaliatory tariff imposed by China.

                          and

                          The soybean farmers have been screaming for assistance since we took office," a senior White House administration official tells Axios. "So this isn't new. And the president is going to help."

                          Between the lines: That "help" could come in the form of huge subsidies, similar to the $28 billion the Trump administration paid out to farmers in the wake of export losses from the president's 2018 trade war with China.

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                            https://fortune.com/2025/09/30/what-happened-soybean-farmers-argentina-china-scott-bessent-phone-texts/

                            According to a photo of a private text on the phone of Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, Argentina responded to the treasury secretary’s $20 billion bailout by turning around and removing its export taxes on soybeans and striking a huge new deal with China. That diminished the price of U.S. soybeans and weakened U.S. trade leverage with China, which immediately pulled out of its existing arrangements with soybean farmers in America’s heartland.

                            The photo taken by Angelina Katsanis for the Associated Press last week shows Bessent reading a text that appears to be from Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins.

                            “Finally—just a heads up, I’m getting more intel, but this is highly unfortunate,” the text said. “We bailed out Argentina yesterday and in return, the Argentine’s [sic] are removing their export tariffs on grains, reducing their price, and sold a bunch of soybeans to China, at a time when we would normally be selling to China. Soy prices are dropping further because of it. This gives China more leverage on us.”

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