Hey 89! And Brenda!
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I didn't hear until I got a few texts from friends asking if my kids were ok... we are I think 40 minutes away. A tragedy for sure, but don't forget kids are a full 100x more likely to die just commuting to school than any violence in school, so...random, but rare. Another reason to not check the news often. Always feel bad for the parents, what a nightmare.
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Sending thoughts and prayers.............
(Dont mean to be too sarcasm, but that seems to be the "trite" response when something like this happens, rather than any real work on solving teh problems.)
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Just checking in. Anything new I should know about?
The Brad
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This is, IMNSHO, a direct result of letting these maladjusted people believe that they were just going to be normalized.
@Mik said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:
This is, IMNSHO, a direct result of letting these maladjusted people believe that they were just going to be normalized.
For the first time ever (for me) I read his suicide note. Just came across it instagram. It's basically rambling apologies to his family and friends, that the world is filled with pain, that he vapes a lot, that he has wanted to die for a while, that he can't take the pain, but that he apologies to his friends and families, etc.........he doesn't talk about why he decided to shoot kids before himself though. Selfish fuck.
It's cliche, but I still don't think guns are the problem, it's all mental health. So many warning signs, almost each time there is a shooting.
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Just checking in. Anything new I should know about?
@LuFins-Dad said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:
Just checking in. Anything new I should know about?
Nope, still wear your seatbelt in your car.
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@Mik said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:
This is, IMNSHO, a direct result of letting these maladjusted people believe that they were just going to be normalized.
For the first time ever (for me) I read his suicide note. Just came across it instagram. It's basically rambling apologies to his family and friends, that the world is filled with pain, that he vapes a lot, that he has wanted to die for a while, that he can't take the pain, but that he apologies to his friends and families, etc.........he doesn't talk about why he decided to shoot kids before himself though. Selfish fuck.
It's cliche, but I still don't think guns are the problem, it's all mental health. So many warning signs, almost each time there is a shooting.
@89th said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:
It's cliche, but I still don't think guns are the problem, it's all mental health. So many warning signs, almost each time there is a shooting.
The question we're bound to ask is why this seems to happen so much more often in the USA than in other comparable countries. What is it that's different here?
I was only joking
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@Mik said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:
This is, IMNSHO, a direct result of letting these maladjusted people believe that they were just going to be normalized.
For the first time ever (for me) I read his suicide note. Just came across it instagram. It's basically rambling apologies to his family and friends, that the world is filled with pain, that he vapes a lot, that he has wanted to die for a while, that he can't take the pain, but that he apologies to his friends and families, etc.........he doesn't talk about why he decided to shoot kids before himself though. Selfish fuck.
It's cliche, but I still don't think guns are the problem, it's all mental health. So many warning signs, almost each time there is a shooting.
@89th said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:
It's cliche, but I still don't think guns are the problem, it's all mental health. So many warning signs, almost each time there is a shooting.
It seems obvious that the damage the mentally deranged could do without ready access to guns would be much less. How many people could the Vegas shooter have killed with a knife?
It’s more accurate to say ‘guns are a big part of the problem but, given our actually existing political system, won’t be a big part of the solution, if there is any’.
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@89th said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:
It's cliche, but I still don't think guns are the problem, it's all mental health. So many warning signs, almost each time there is a shooting.
It seems obvious that the damage the mentally deranged could do without ready access to guns would be much less. How many people could the Vegas shooter have killed with a knife?
It’s more accurate to say ‘guns are a big part of the problem but, given our actually existing political system, won’t be a big part of the solution, if there is any’.
@jon-nyc said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:
@89th said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:
It's cliche, but I still don't think guns are the problem, it's all mental health. So many warning signs, almost each time there is a shooting.
It seems obvious that the damage the mentally deranged could do without ready access to guns would be much less. How many people could the Vegas shooter have killed with a knife?
It’s more accurate to say ‘guns are a big part of the problem but, given our actually existing political system, won’t be a big part of the solution, if there is any’.
Fair enough. I guess the first example in my head is someone could just take a car and plow into any crowd in any city and take out like 20 people. Easy.
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@89th said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:
It's cliche, but I still don't think guns are the problem, it's all mental health. So many warning signs, almost each time there is a shooting.
The question we're bound to ask is why this seems to happen so much more often in the USA than in other comparable countries. What is it that's different here?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:
@89th said in Hey 89! And Brenda!:
It's cliche, but I still don't think guns are the problem, it's all mental health. So many warning signs, almost each time there is a shooting.
The question we're bound to ask is why this seems to happen so much more often in the USA than in other comparable countries. What is it that's different here?
Probably a combination of all of these and more. Who knows.
- Access to guns (I don't have a problem with the 2nd amendment, but also wouldn't have a problem making access to guns require a license to include training and mental health checks...
- News that loves to cover these events, share manifestos, and make the killer's name/face famous, for clicks/views....thereby letting folks with issues know that's an option now if they want to go out in a blaze of infamy (ever since Columbine in 1999, really)
- Decline in traditional values
- A culture that unfortunately breeds loneliness and disfunction
The USA is also a massive melting pot and relatively young country. Other countries like Japan or Singapore or Sweden (etc......) have comparatively homogenous cultures and values.
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It sucks, but this will happen again and again. It's extremely unlikely to happen to you (again...100x more likely to get hurt driving to school than at school). Improved mental health programs and increased rigor on who can purchase or carry a gun, that'll help. But America is still the wild west compared to many countries. Add in a much larger country (many more schools, many people people, much larger geography)... it'll happen again. Sucks.
