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Is it safe?

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #3

    Risk/benefit analysis. The movie party loses.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by Jolly
      #4

      As a thread drift...

      The market is starting to winnow out the crappy tests, at least in the clinical labs subject to CLIA 88. The problem is the tiny doctor office labs, where the people performing the test are not labortorians. The mainline labs are still subject to method comparison, precision, accuracy, etc. The docs plop it on the counter and call it good.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        #5

        Two points:

        I agree with Jolly and Mik. If she hasn't seen him for months, I would not think there would be urgent on her part to see him right now, especially will everything going on.

        Second - University of Illinois has got approval for a saliva test they developed. Appears to be much easier then the "sticking the stick up your nose test"

        Saliva Test Approved

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
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          #6

          No way.

          I was only joking

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            Two points:

            I agree with Jolly and Mik. If she hasn't seen him for months, I would not think there would be urgent on her part to see him right now, especially will everything going on.

            Second - University of Illinois has got approval for a saliva test they developed. Appears to be much easier then the "sticking the stick up your nose test"

            Saliva Test Approved

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by Jolly
            #7

            @taiwan_girl said in Is it safe?:

            Two points:

            I agree with Jolly and Mik. If she hasn't seen him for months, I would not think there would be urgent on her part to see him right now, especially will everything going on.

            Second - University of Illinois has got approval for a saliva test they developed. Appears to be much easier then the "sticking the stick up your nose test"

            Saliva Test Approved

            It's approved under the Emergency Act. I've seen some absolutely shitty tests approved under that act, then later yanked from the market.

            Don't fall for the bally-hoo.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @taiwan_girl said in Is it safe?:

              Two points:

              I agree with Jolly and Mik. If she hasn't seen him for months, I would not think there would be urgent on her part to see him right now, especially will everything going on.

              Second - University of Illinois has got approval for a saliva test they developed. Appears to be much easier then the "sticking the stick up your nose test"

              Saliva Test Approved

              It's approved under the Emergency Act. I've seen some absolutely shitty tests approved under that act, then later yanked from the market.

              Don't fall for the bally-hoo.

              taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              @Jolly Good point.

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
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                @George-K said in Is it safe?:

                Thoughts?
                My gut says, "Nah." I don't trust

                Asymptomatic? Or did he develop symptoms? What was the reason for taking the test in the first place? Has he had a followup test to make sure that he's clear?

                How does your daughter feel? She's an adult...

                The Brad

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                  Friday
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                  #10

                  I would not trust the friend either.

                  My kids are adults as well. But they live with me and I fully support them. If I told them not to go to a party, I fully expect them to not go to a party.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @George-K said in Is it safe?:

                    Thoughts?
                    My gut says, "Nah." I don't trust

                    Asymptomatic? Or did he develop symptoms? What was the reason for taking the test in the first place? Has he had a followup test to make sure that he's clear?

                    How does your daughter feel? She's an adult...

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #11

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Is it safe?:

                    Asymptomatic? Or did he develop symptoms? What was the reason for taking the test in the first place?

                    Sore throat and a fever.

                    Has he had a followup test to make sure that he's clear?

                    Nope

                    How does your daughter feel? She's an adult...

                    "I don’t even want to touch anything that he touches. If we were outside, I wouldn’t care much, but nothing indoors...Yeah I’m staying away...Well at least I know I’m not overthinking...He tested positive on 8/6."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      A friend had a child go away to camp. 300 tested positive for Covid. 12 had symptoms, none for more than a day or two.

                      This is what is going through young people’s minds.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Is it safe?:

                        Asymptomatic? Or did he develop symptoms? What was the reason for taking the test in the first place?

                        Sore throat and a fever.

                        Has he had a followup test to make sure that he's clear?

                        Nope

                        How does your daughter feel? She's an adult...

                        "I don’t even want to touch anything that he touches. If we were outside, I wouldn’t care much, but nothing indoors...Yeah I’m staying away...Well at least I know I’m not overthinking...He tested positive on 8/6."

                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        @George-K said in Is it safe?:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Is it safe?:

                        Asymptomatic? Or did he develop symptoms? What was the reason for taking the test in the first place?

                        Sore throat and a fever.

                        Has he had a followup test to make sure that he's clear?

                        Nope

                        How does your daughter feel? She's an adult...

                        "I don’t even want to touch anything that he touches. If we were outside, I wouldn’t care much, but nothing indoors...Yeah I’m staying away...Well at least I know I’m not overthinking...He tested positive on 8/6."

                        My concern wouldn't be him. It would be everybody... Chances are good that at least one of the other party-goers was exposed to him since he was originally infected or was exposed to whoever infected him originally...

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @George-K said in Is it safe?:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Is it safe?:

                          Asymptomatic? Or did he develop symptoms? What was the reason for taking the test in the first place?

                          Sore throat and a fever.

                          Has he had a followup test to make sure that he's clear?

                          Nope

                          How does your daughter feel? She's an adult...

                          "I don’t even want to touch anything that he touches. If we were outside, I wouldn’t care much, but nothing indoors...Yeah I’m staying away...Well at least I know I’m not overthinking...He tested positive on 8/6."

                          My concern wouldn't be him. It would be everybody... Chances are good that at least one of the other party-goers was exposed to him since he was originally infected or was exposed to whoever infected him originally...

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          @LuFins-Dad like his wife....

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Aqua Letifer
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                            Of the set of all humans who have told me they're doing shit like that in a "totally safe" way, the subset of those humans who have actually kept their word continues to be null.

                            Please love yourself.

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