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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    I'm terrible for eating them, as I'm generally cooking after work, starving hungry and in a hurry.

    I've been trying to eat more fresh fish of late, but then I end up cooking oven fries, so FAIL.

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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Not withstanding the distasteful Hulk Hogan meme…:

    I'm terrible for eating them, as I'm generally cooking after work, starving hungry and in a hurry.

    I've been trying to eat more fresh fish of late, but then I end up cooking oven fries, so FAIL.

    Broccoli is your friend. Try an arugula salad with just a little olive oil, lemon juice and parmesan, preferably shaved. You can throw in some pine nuts or pistachios too if you like. Delicious with fish, or anything, 30 seconds to prepare.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      My dinners are very healthy - a protein and a fresh vegetable or salad. I make potatoes 3-4 times a year.

      More rice these days though with a Peruvian in the house.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        Very few potatoes here. Almost never. I follow the same plan. Lean protein and a veg or salad. It's plenty. Fruit or a small serving of chocolate for dessert if I want it.

        Breakfast around 11 is usually no sugar added muesli with milk and berries, plus a couple microwaved eggs. Then I normally don't eat until dinner. I might have a few nuts or a cucumber for a snack.

        I have been looking this morning at how to up my plant protein intake. I don't think I'm getting enough for the amount of weightlifting I've been doing. I really hate the drinks and powders.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • MikM Mik

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Not withstanding the distasteful Hulk Hogan meme…:

          I'm terrible for eating them, as I'm generally cooking after work, starving hungry and in a hurry.

          I've been trying to eat more fresh fish of late, but then I end up cooking oven fries, so FAIL.

          Broccoli is your friend. Try an arugula salad with just a little olive oil, lemon juice and parmesan, preferably shaved. You can throw in some pine nuts or pistachios too if you like. Delicious with fish, or anything, 30 seconds to prepare.

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          @Mik said in Not withstanding the distasteful Hulk Hogan meme…:

          Broccoli is your friend.

          I'm banned from eating broccoli due to what happens a couple of hours later.

          I was only joking

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            Horace
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            Shakespeare called broccoli the "gay fruit". Probably.

            Also, "notwithstanding" doesn't mean "not withstanding". Shakespeare is unavailable for comment on that one.

            Education is extremely important.

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              I drink my salad in my morning smoothie, after my treadmill. Usually a big handful of spinach leaves. Also some berries and chocolate dusted almonds. The almonds add a lot.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • MikM Mik

                Very few potatoes here. Almost never. I follow the same plan. Lean protein and a veg or salad. It's plenty. Fruit or a small serving of chocolate for dessert if I want it.

                Breakfast around 11 is usually no sugar added muesli with milk and berries, plus a couple microwaved eggs. Then I normally don't eat until dinner. I might have a few nuts or a cucumber for a snack.

                I have been looking this morning at how to up my plant protein intake. I don't think I'm getting enough for the amount of weightlifting I've been doing. I really hate the drinks and powders.

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                @Mik said in Not withstanding the distasteful Hulk Hogan meme…:

                I have been looking this morning at how to up my plant protein intake. I don't think I'm getting enough for the amount of weightlifting I've been doing. I really hate the drinks and powders.

                I find Premier Protein chocolate shakes to be tolerable. I can’t find a bar I like, but I eat them anyway. It’s like taking medicine.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  I had one of Janet's Premier banana shakes this morning. it really wasn't bad. But they are the very definition of ultra processed. The bars are like sugared cardboard. I like the Kind sea salt nuts and dark chocolate bars but they aren't really high protein.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    For a while I was eating 2oz of peanuts with my lunch for an extra 15g. But after a few months I got tired of them.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      I'm having Paul Newman's pizza leftovers for lunch. Just saying.

                      Later on I'm going to buy a whole bunch of strawberries so that I don't feel guilty. Admittedly they taste so good they ought to be bad for you, and they're going dirt cheap at the moment.

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Mik said in Not withstanding the distasteful Hulk Hogan meme…:

                        I have been looking this morning at how to up my plant protein intake. I don't think I'm getting enough for the amount of weightlifting I've been doing. I really hate the drinks and powders.

                        I find Premier Protein chocolate shakes to be tolerable. I can’t find a bar I like, but I eat them anyway. It’s like taking medicine.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Notwithstanding the distasteful Hulk Hogan meme…:

                        @Mik said in Not withstanding the distasteful Hulk Hogan meme…:

                        I have been looking this morning at how to up my plant protein intake. I don't think I'm getting enough for the amount of weightlifting I've been doing. I really hate the drinks and powders.

                        I find Premier Protein chocolate shakes to be tolerable. I can’t find a bar I like, but I eat them anyway. It’s like taking medicine.

                        RXBar is pretty good (chocolate sea salt), and the Costco protein bars feel stiffer than they are when you eat them, the peanut butter one is delicious IMO... for a protein bar of course.

                        My daily routine when I'm eating normal/healthy is:

                        • Breakfast: Coffee and a Jimmy Dean delight breakfast sandwich (microwave), while I'm at work. 15g protein, 290 cals.
                        • Lunch: Rolled up turkey deli meat, about 1/3 pound, 2-3 slices of thin cut pepperjack cheese, dipped in deli mustard, sometimes I even wrap my pickle with it (srsly). Snap peas and olive tapenade or other hummus.
                        • Dinner: Whatever my wife makes, usually pasta, or salmon burgers, or tacos/fajitas, and if I'm cooking, chicken/veggies or something similar.

                        My downfall... if I give into the snacking desire after the kids are asleep. I can quickly add 500-1000 calories sitting there watching Squid Game or another show while "relaxing". If I'm good, I'll just drink a mini fresca to "hit the spot" then that'll be it for the night. Sometimes I'll eat another pickle or two at night to quench the munchies craving. Sodium sure, but otherwise it's veggies and no cals.

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                          xenon
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                          The current confusing narrative is around amount of protein. I've been weightlifting consistently over the last 2 years and it feels fantastic.

                          But the bro-sphere influencers are saying you need up to 1g per lb of body weight of protein a day. That may be too high, but there is evidence in some studies that up to 0.6g per lb of body weight leads to more muscle synthesis.

                          That's a lot of meat. Not sure if the net benefits of that are positive.

                          @89th: I know this sounds drastic, but the real game changer for me was around 2016. I stopped eating added sugar. It's been the most effective health change I've made to my life. Was very hard when I was first making the switching. The good part of it is that it's a very clear rule.

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                            Plenty of protein sources beyond meat. Whole milk yogurt is a staple for me. Casein is great for a slow protein source that stays in your blood for many hours after eating.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              Plenty of protein sources beyond meat. Whole milk yogurt is a staple for me. Casein is great for a slow protein source that stays in your blood for many hours after eating.

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                              @Horace said in Notwithstanding the distasteful Hulk Hogan meme…:

                              Plenty of protein sources beyond meat.

                              I miss Aqua's sister.

                              I was only joking

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                                @xenon im with you. Protein is even more needed when you’re my age.

                                My normal routine:

                                Breakfast (split in two mini meals, one before and one after the gym
                                B1 - hard boiled egg (7g), no sugar yogurt (12), bagel and cream cheese (12-15ish)
                                B2 - hard boiled egg (7g) peanut butter and jelly sandwich toasted (15g), protein shake (30g)

                                Lunch - turkey and cheese sandwich (25g)

                                Afternoon - bar 21g

                                Dinner - probably 40+ of protein.

                                That’s 160+

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                  What's B2 - Second breakfast?

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • X xenon

                                    The current confusing narrative is around amount of protein. I've been weightlifting consistently over the last 2 years and it feels fantastic.

                                    But the bro-sphere influencers are saying you need up to 1g per lb of body weight of protein a day. That may be too high, but there is evidence in some studies that up to 0.6g per lb of body weight leads to more muscle synthesis.

                                    That's a lot of meat. Not sure if the net benefits of that are positive.

                                    @89th: I know this sounds drastic, but the real game changer for me was around 2016. I stopped eating added sugar. It's been the most effective health change I've made to my life. Was very hard when I was first making the switching. The good part of it is that it's a very clear rule.

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                                    @xenon said in Notwithstanding the distasteful Hulk Hogan meme…:

                                    The current confusing narrative is around amount of protein. I've been weightlifting consistently over the last 2 years and it feels fantastic.

                                    But the bro-sphere influencers are saying you need up to 1g per lb of body weight of protein a day. That may be too high, but there is evidence in some studies that up to 0.6g per lb of body weight leads to more muscle synthesis.

                                    That's a lot of meat. Not sure if the net benefits of that are positive.

                                    @89th: I know this sounds drastic, but the real game changer for me was around 2016. I stopped eating added sugar. It's been the most effective health change I've made to my life. Was very hard when I was first making the switching. The good part of it is that it's a very clear rule.

                                    Yeah the protein recommendations for my body weight would be like a half cow a day. very bad for your kidneys. I'd like to get up to maybe 100-150 grams a day but that's as far as I'm willing to go at my age.

                                    When I limited added sugar way back when I was suprised at how quickly my taste for sweets went away.

                                    Xenon, what kind of routine are you doing? I'm sticking with machines, but I do 13-14 of them, three sets to almost failure on each. I may leave one, maybe two reps in the tank. First set is the heaviest weight I can squeeze four reps out of. if I can get up to six I up the weight. Second set goes usually 30 lbs lighter for 8-12 reps then the third down again 30 for 15-20 for endurance.

                                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                      @Mik - I do compound exercises. I have a set of dumbbells and a barbell rack in my basement. With 3 young kids - the name of the game is simplicity and consistency. I carve out 20 mins a day and rotate main body sections: squats, deadlifts, bench press, rows, chin ups.

                                      I typically average about 10-12 reps (which is close to failure).

                                      When I used to go to the gym (a long time ago), I was very into efficiency and effective training. These days I just throw weights in the air, but almost always do it 3-4 days a week.

                                      I also bike 3 days a week to work... which works out to about 80 miles a week of cardio.

                                      Consistency beats technique. I've never felt stronger in my life.

                                      I need to work on stretching more though... I completely ignored up until recently.

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        What's B2 - Second breakfast?

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Notwithstanding the distasteful Hulk Hogan meme…:

                                        What's B2 - Second breakfast?

                                        Yes. Sometimes I have two lunches too. I struggle to keep weight on.

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                        • X xenon

                                          @Mik - I do compound exercises. I have a set of dumbbells and a barbell rack in my basement. With 3 young kids - the name of the game is simplicity and consistency. I carve out 20 mins a day and rotate main body sections: squats, deadlifts, bench press, rows, chin ups.

                                          I typically average about 10-12 reps (which is close to failure).

                                          When I used to go to the gym (a long time ago), I was very into efficiency and effective training. These days I just throw weights in the air, but almost always do it 3-4 days a week.

                                          I also bike 3 days a week to work... which works out to about 80 miles a week of cardio.

                                          Consistency beats technique. I've never felt stronger in my life.

                                          I need to work on stretching more though... I completely ignored up until recently.

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                                          @xenon said in Notwithstanding the distasteful Hulk Hogan meme…:

                                          @Mik - I do compound exercises. I have a set of dumbbells and a barbell rack in my basement. With 3 young kids - the name of the game is simplicity and consistency. I carve out 20 mins a day and rotate main body sections: squats, deadlifts, bench press, rows, chin ups.

                                          I typically average about 10-12 reps (which is close to failure).

                                          When I used to go to the gym (a long time ago), I was very into efficiency and effective training. These days I just throw weights in the air, but almost always do it 3-4 days a week.

                                          I also bike 3 days a week to work... which works out to about 80 miles a week of cardio.

                                          Consistency beats technique. I've never felt stronger in my life.

                                          I need to work on stretching more though... I completely ignored up until recently.

                                          Yeah, I've been looking for a sustainable routine for stretching and balance. But yo are right - consistency is the key. I go three times a week for 90 minutes each, 30 minutes cardio at home on the off days.

                                          I may eventually go back to free weights and dumbbells, but at this age the machines are likely the better option. I do have a leg press machine and an ab machine I've maxed out on so not sure what I'm going to do there. Most of them I'm 60-75% of the stack.

                                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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