The Epstein File
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:
This is smart. I know it is fracturing his base to some extent (not sure how much), but if you take it for granted that there is no there there with the Epstein Files, it's smart to goad his enemies into going full conspiracy theorist and making fools of themselves.
Education is extremely important.
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I didn’t think there were any dramatic revelations here before all this. But now Trump has been saying that all the Epstein files are written by his political opponents.
That part is weird - why make that point?
He’s not saying there’s no there there. He’s not saying we actually have no proof of Epstein doing anything bad.
He’s saying that the files have political slander in them.
I’m not sure what part is smart - that he’ll eventual reveal that there’s no evidence of wrongdoing against Epstein?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:
This is smart. I know it is fracturing his base to some extent (not sure how much), but if you take it for granted that there is no there there with the Epstein Files, it's smart to goad his enemies into going full conspiracy theorist and making fools of themselves.
I was only joking
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I didn’t think there were any dramatic revelations here before all this. But now Trump has been saying that all the Epstein files are written by his political opponents.
That part is weird - why make that point?
He’s not saying there’s no there there. He’s not saying we actually have no proof of Epstein doing anything bad.
He’s saying that the files have political slander in them.
I’m not sure what part is smart - that he’ll eventual reveal that there’s no evidence of wrongdoing against Epstein?
@xenon said in The Epstein File:
I didn’t think there were any dramatic revelations here before all this. But now Trump has been saying that all the Epstein files are written by his political opponents.
That part is weird - why make that point?
He’s not saying there’s no there there. He’s not saying we actually have no proof of Epstein doing anything bad.
He’s saying that the files have political slander in them.
I’m not sure what part is smart - that he’ll eventual reveal that there’s no evidence of wrongdoing against Epstein?
He's herding his enemies into the side of the argument he is in a position to know is wrong, while his enemies are not in that position to know. The stuff about Comey creating hoax files is probably just reflexive rhetoric that he thinks will play to his base.
I am a fan of any explanation for strange events that has human incompetence at its core, but I can't go far enough to believe that the Biden administration overlooked evidence of Trump being a pedophile. The other explanations for Biden's handlers not dunking on Trump, like mutually assured destruction or shadowy deep deep state figures, are pure wish-casted conspiracies with no reasonable chance of being true, and kept under wraps. So, I'm left with the notion that there is nothing juicy in those files that could damage Trump.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
This is smart.
Time will tell.
No reason to suspect that. We are at a place now that nobody will trust any documents anyway. The most compelling piece of evidence that Trump has no personal reason to cover up the files, will remain that Biden did not use those files against him.
Our court system continues to work adequately though, and Epstein was in fact convicted of actual crimes, and we can presume that the jury had evidence to base that conviction on. The fact that Epstein was fairly convicted does not indicate that there must be a list which incriminates everybody who had sex with the girls he trafficked.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
This is smart.
Time will tell.
No reason to suspect that. We are at a place now that nobody will trust any documents anyway. The most compelling piece of evidence that Trump has no personal reason to cover up the files, will remain that Biden did not use those files against him.
Our court system continues to work adequately though, and Epstein was in fact convicted of actual crimes, and we can presume that the jury had evidence to base that conviction on. The fact that Epstein was fairly convicted does not indicate that there must be a list which incriminates everybody who had sex with the girls he trafficked.
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
This is smart.
Time will tell.
No reason to suspect that. We are at a place now that nobody will trust any documents anyway.
Exactly
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@Horace said in The Epstein File:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
This is smart.
Time will tell.
No reason to suspect that. We are at a place now that nobody will trust any documents anyway.
Exactly
@89th said in The Epstein File:
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
This is smart.
Time will tell.
No reason to suspect that. We are at a place now that nobody will trust any documents anyway.
Exactly
I know you wrote something to that effect recently. I considered giving you an h/t, but couldn't afford it. Not in this economy.
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Trump abruptly fired the federal prosecutor who handled Epstein and Ghislane prosecutions.
@jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:
Trump abruptly fired the federal prosecutor who handled Epstein and Ghislane prosecutions.
James Comey's daughter, no less.
Clearly he should pardon Ghislaine Maxwell. It's only common decency.
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Ezra Klein told a funny joke, apropos of this thread.
A conspiracy theorist dies and goes to heaven. When he gets there, god says to him ‘You can ask me one question, anything you want.’
The guy asks ‘Who killed JFK?’
God says, ‘Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone.’
The guy says, ‘Man, this goes even higher than I thought’.
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Ezra Klein told a funny joke, apropos of this thread.
A conspiracy theorist dies and goes to heaven. When he gets there, god says to him ‘You can ask me one question, anything you want.’
The guy asks ‘Who killed JFK?’
God says, ‘Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone.’
The guy says, ‘Man, this goes even higher than I thought’.
