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We need a new Marshall Plan for Europe

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    So they can buy air conditioners.

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    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      It's hard to imagine life without an air conditioner. Even in MN. On hot days... the relief when you get in a car or in your house... I was just outside doing yardwork for 3 hours, and my entire shorts/shirt was literally dripping with sweat. Felt great to go into my always-64 degree basement.

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        Energy costs?

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          97 outside today here in Florida, 76 in the house. We're going out to dinner a little later and planning our escape to the car (which we foolishly left) in the driveway.

          But then there's Mexicans putting on roofs in my neighborhood all day, every day. So there's that. Maybe the future belongs to them.

          Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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          • Tom-KT Tom-K

            97 outside today here in Florida, 76 in the house. We're going out to dinner a little later and planning our escape to the car (which we foolishly left) in the driveway.

            But then there's Mexicans putting on roofs in my neighborhood all day, every day. So there's that. Maybe the future belongs to them.

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            @Tom-K . I take it you don't see immigration raids in your area.

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            • Tom-KT Tom-K

              97 outside today here in Florida, 76 in the house. We're going out to dinner a little later and planning our escape to the car (which we foolishly left) in the driveway.

              But then there's Mexicans putting on roofs in my neighborhood all day, every day. So there's that. Maybe the future belongs to them.

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              @Tom-K said in We need a new Marshall Plan for Europe:

              97 outside today here in Florida, 76 in the house. We're going out to dinner a little later and planning our escape to the car (which we foolishly left) in the driveway.

              But then there's Mexicans putting on roofs in my neighborhood all day, every day. So there's that. Maybe the future belongs to them.

              Back in 2014 we had one hell of a hail storm come through. Everybody, and I do mean EVERYBODY, got at least a new roof. We got a new roof, garage door and paint job for the whole house. Sadly, I could not get them to replace the cedar with Hardieboard.

              Anyway, all that summer the ca-chunk ca-chunk of roof replacement could be heard. But I watched the crews. The Mexicans busted their asses and got most done in one day. The American crews generally took two.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                Never owned an AC. An oscillating fan works fine for the few hot days we get up North here.

                Have two gas hot air return furnaces though.

                Elbows up!

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                  I have struck up a nice friendship with my future landlord as he is a dual citizen American over in Sardinia and we are picking each other's brain regarding this very subject. He's about 35 married with 2 kids and lives a life of entrepeneurship. Has multiple rentals, owns a bar in Rome, etc. We are talking about getting ahead of this thing that is about to burst. Global warming has particularly hit Sardinia harder than most places and I hear summers can get to 40C more regularly now. The only saving grace is the Mistral winds that are the predominat blower over the island. But you're right, Italians and AC's have never been good bedfellows. Many more without than with. Ari and I are thinking some lower cost solutions utilizing solar maybe, to be there when that market is forced to open wide. I am not allowed to work over there with the kind of visa I will have but doesn't mean my money can't work. There is long old mythology that the cold air at night is bad for your health too besides a general waste of money. Better spent on nice clothes and good food and drink than other physical comforts. There are certain things that are just the way they are over there. Not many clothes dryers either. Italians are practical, there's 200 plus days of sunshine, why the heck do I need a dryer?

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                    I completely fail to understand the logic, but for many Germans it is immoral to have AC.

                    Also, thanks to our insane energy prices, AC is really expensive to operate.

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