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Supreme Court to weigh in on GAC for Minors Ban

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    I don’t know how the laws are written so I don’t know precisely what matters of law will be put to the court, but SCOTUS will be loathe to step into role of adjudicating the quality of the scientific evidence behind the procedures.

    I think legal liability has a better chance of returning us to sanity on this issue than the courts or legislatures do.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      I don’t know how the laws are written so I don’t know precisely what matters of law will be put to the court, but SCOTUS will be loathe to step into role of adjudicating the quality of the scientific evidence behind the procedures.

      I think legal liability has a better chance of returning us to sanity on this issue than the courts or legislatures do.

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      @jon-nyc said in Supreme Court to weigh in on GAC for Minors Ban:

      I don’t know how the laws are written so I don’t know precisely what matters of law will be put to the court, but SCOTUS will be loathe to step into role of adjudicating the quality of the scientific evidence behind the procedures.

      I think legal liability has a better chance of returning us to sanity on this issue than the courts or legislatures do.

      The bigger question will be whether the SC will uphold the 6th Circuit’s opinion that Trans are not necessarily a suspect class under Equal Protection, as it’s not something that is immutable or ascertainable at the the time of birth.

      I think it’s probable that the Court upholds the ban but strikes the opinion re: suspect class. But if the court doesn’t strike that part of the opinion, then Hoo-Boy, all bets are off the table…

      The Brad

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        A bad day for Chase Strangio…

        The Brad

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          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            A bad day for Chase Strangio…

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Supreme Court to weigh in on GAC for Minors Ban:

            A bad day for Chase Strangio…

            You’re just finding out about this now?

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              Oh man, Barrett’s concurrence was devastating and opens all kinds of legal obstacles for the trans community claims of protected status… This will be worth watching.

              https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/23-477_2cp3.pdf

              The Brad

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                Anyone interested there’s a great Advisory Opinions episode on this and they discuss the various concurrences and dissents.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  Fantastic piece.

                  https://archive.is/K2tDv

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                    Fantastic piece.

                    https://archive.is/K2tDv

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                    @jon-nyc said in Supreme Court to weigh in on GAC for Minors Ban:

                    Fantastic piece.

                    https://archive.is/K2tDv

                    That is absolutely fantastic, especially coming from Lionel Shriver, born Margaret Shriver and changed her name to Lionel because she felt it truly reflected her Tomboy personality. Her critiques over the past 10-15 years of culture and government have been cutting and insightful.

                    The Brad

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                      @jon-nyc said in Supreme Court to weigh in on GAC for Minors Ban:

                      Fantastic piece.

                      https://archive.is/K2tDv

                      That is absolutely fantastic, especially coming from Lionel Shriver, born Margaret Shriver and changed her name to Lionel because she felt it truly reflected her Tomboy personality. Her critiques over the past 10-15 years of culture and government have been cutting and insightful.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Supreme Court to weigh in on GAC for Minors Ban:

                      @jon-nyc said in Supreme Court to weigh in on GAC for Minors Ban:

                      Fantastic piece.

                      https://archive.is/K2tDv

                      That is absolutely fantastic, especially coming from Lionel Shriver, born Margaret Shriver and changed her name to Lionel because she felt it truly reflected her Tomboy personality. Her critiques over the past 10-15 years of culture and government have been cutting and insightful.

                      She does lots of podcasts. Never dull. I liked her most famous book We Need To Talk About Kevin. I got it at an airport bookstore for a flight, thinking it was a thriller twisty page turner. Not quite.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        I can imagine your surprise. lol

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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