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  • taiwan_girlT Online
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    taiwan_girl
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    #47

    Oh, I understand that they are expensive. I assume that if they do take the one from Qatar, it will probably be "stripped" down to almost nothing and then rebuilt to Air Force one specifications.

    It would be very rare for a government to give a gift to another government with no expectation of anyting in return.

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      jon-nyc
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      #48

      It’s legal to shoplift if you wave to the security camera.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        It’s legal to shoplift if you wave to the security camera.

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        89th
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        #49

        @jon-nyc said in Emir Force One:

        It’s legal to shoplift if you wave to the security camera.

        LOL well summarized

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          #50

          The royal family of Qatar, owner of one of the largest private jet fleets in the world, has been quietly getting rid of some of its biggest planes. It may have found the perfect taker for one of its Boeing 747 jumbo jets in President Donald Trump, who has been frustrated with the multi-year delays in replacing Air Force One.

          But while many have speculated that the Qataris have offered Trump the luxurious plane to curry favor with the famously transactional president, there may be a simpler rationale: they just don’t want it anymore.

          The royals have failed to sell the plane, which was put on the market in 2020, according to an archived cop listing. Giving it away could save Qatar’s rulers a big chunk of change on maintenance and storage costs, aviation experts told Forbes. Making Trump happy would be an added bonus.

          and

          The 747 the Qataris may give Trump only flew 1,069 hours in the five years before it was put on the market in 2020, according to a brochure for the plane from AMAC Aerospace, which built its interior.

          and

          The plane would need to be stripped down and swept for bugs. Then, unless the administration is willing to accept the risks of lighter security, it would need to be built up to the Air Force’s requirements to serve as a secure airborne command center, with encrypted communications systems, shielding to protect the electronics from the effects of a nuclear blast and defenses against missiles. That’s a process that Boeing, despite all its delays, is years down the road already with the two planes it began work on in 2018 during Trump’s first term.

          It would take at least five years starting again from scratch, Aboulafia estimates, unless security requirements were relaxed.

          https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremybogaisky/2025/05/14/qatar-747-trump/

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #51

            So, the new Air Force 1 is racing neck and neck with all those new factories. Which gets completed first in the breakneck, edge of your seat race that'll last 10 years?

            Education is extremely important.

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              Axtremus
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              #52

              Made me think about maintenance of the aircraft after Trump leaves office, should the aircraft be accepted.

              It seems the Trump Organization already has an aviation fleet that includes.a Boeing 757: https://www.trump.com/lifestyle/aviation

              It will be expensive, but the Trump Organization should already have some capacity to maintain an aircraft, even if it's outsourced.

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                jon-nyc
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                #53

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  #54

                  And some say Mr. Trump will earn the Nobel Peace Prize.

                  Of course Mr. Obama set the standard for that prize.

                  Has Mr. Trump reached that lofty height? Time will tell.

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                  • CopperC Copper

                    And some say Mr. Trump will earn the Nobel Peace Prize.

                    Of course Mr. Obama set the standard for that prize.

                    Has Mr. Trump reached that lofty height? Time will tell.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                    #55

                    @Copper

                    And some say Mr. Trump will earn the Nobel Peace Prize….

                    Has Mr. Trump reached that lofty height? Time will tell.

                    Not if Steve Witkoff can help it.

                    Elbows up!

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                      jon-nyc
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                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        Made me think about maintenance of the aircraft after Trump leaves office, should the aircraft be accepted.

                        It seems the Trump Organization already has an aviation fleet that includes.a Boeing 757: https://www.trump.com/lifestyle/aviation

                        It will be expensive, but the Trump Organization should already have some capacity to maintain an aircraft, even if it's outsourced.

                        taiwan_girlT Online
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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #57

                        @Axtremus said in Emir Force One:

                        Made me think about maintenance of the aircraft after Trump leaves office, should the aircraft be accepted.

                        It seems the Trump Organization already has an aviation fleet that includes.a Boeing 757: https://www.trump.com/lifestyle/aviation

                        It will be expensive, but the Trump Organization should already have some capacity to maintain an aircraft, even if it's outsourced.

                        part of the problem I was reading is that the number of 747 planes is decreasing, as well as the number of people who are familiar with, and can maintain them. Planes are enough different that you need to be specialized in one particular airplane.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                          89th
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                          @jon-nyc said in Emir Force One:

                          Hypocrisy... consistent at least!

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                            #59

                            Times change, he has the courage to change with them.

                            We are so lucky.

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              Times change, he has the courage to change with them.

                              We are so lucky.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @Copper said in Emir Force One:

                              Times change, he has the courage to change with them.

                              Adult diapers are also changed when they're full of shit.

                              I was only joking

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                Times change, he has the courage to change with them.

                                We are so lucky.

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                                Renauda
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                                @Copper said in Emir Force One:

                                Times change, he has the courage to change with them.

                                We are so lucky.

                                A fine example of troll relativism if there ever was one.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #62

                                  Brilliant

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    AndyD
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                                    #63

                                    Surely USA constitution rules are crystal clear.
                                    Foreign gifts to an individual government employee above a specific value (currently $480) are not allowed and if given presumably become the property of the Federal government.
                                    A person accepting and keeping an expensive foreign gift is stealing from the US government.

                                    And your libraries must be rather different from those in the UK.
                                    Can you go there and ask to borrow the plane?
                                    Does is get stamped with a due date😁

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #64

                                      The problem is no one has standing to stop the president in court except maybe Congress. (Since the constitution allows Congress to grant exceptions which the president didn’t seek). We have that problem lot, where our founders assumed each branch of government would be jealous of its power and act accordingly. They didn’t envision the rise of parties and how Congress would be incentivized to defer to a president of its own party.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        AndyD
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                                        #65

                                        Basically you're saying a bad President can do what s/he wants; and even pardon him/herself for any & all crimes at the end of term.
                                        WTF? Is a grassy knoll the only solution?

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #66

                                          Heart attack would be preferred.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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