ATC guy: avoid Newark ‘at all costs’
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wrote 15 days ago last edited by jon-nyc 5 Mar 2025, 22:39
20% of Newark ATC has walked off the job.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/02/us/newark-airport-delays-air-traffic-staffing
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What a mess.
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They were warned. Leaving the house is never a good idea, least of all when you leave home to go to an airport.
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It seems COVID restrictions had something to do with it. How stupid is that?
In March 2020, the FAA suspended training at the FAA Academy in Oklahoma City for four months, in addition to pausing training at key facilities for periods ranging from seven months to nearly two years. The academy resumed training in July 2020 but with a 50 percent reduction in class size to accommodate the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines for social distancing.
The report noted that “due to these uncertain training outcomes, FAA cannot ensure it will successfully train enough controllers in the short term.”
https://www.flyingmag.com/watchdog-report-faa-lacks-a-plan-to-address-atc-shortages/
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We can only hope that those COVID precautions saved a single human life. They would then be worth it, QED.
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Welcome to Elaine Chao’s DoT.
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wrote 15 days ago last edited by Copper 5 Mar 2025, 21:30
I once spent the night on a bench on the sidewalk at Newark Airport, waiting for it to open.
It's a long story, I was working at Exit 8A and my wife went into labor. It was the last time I flew on a DC8. It only had a few passengers, a very nice flight.
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I avoid Newark at all costs for other reasons.
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I avoid Newark at all costs for other reasons.
wrote 15 days ago last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Avoid Newark ‘at all costs’:
I avoid Newark at all costs for other reasons.
We had a data center in Newark, near the airport. We had to unlock the chain link fence any time we came or went. The fence surrounded the parking lot and was topped off with concertina wire.
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I try to avoid it too but sometimes United will have the only non-stop to certain destinations (Naples for instance). I’ve also chosen it when the remaining seats on other airlines suck.
But I’ll definitely avoid it 100% until this is fixed.
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Oddly I flew into Newark with the boy just last Monday coming home from Madrid. I think the shit started the next day.
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I once spent the night on a bench on the sidewalk at Newark Airport, waiting for it to open.
It's a long story, I was working at Exit 8A and my wife went into labor. It was the last time I flew on a DC8. It only had a few passengers, a very nice flight.
wrote 15 days ago last edited by@Copper said in Avoid Newark ‘at all costs’:
I once spent the night on a bench on the sidewalk at Newark Airport, waiting for it to open.
It's a long story, I was working at Exit 8A and my wife went into labor. It was the last time I flew on a DC8. It only had a few passengers, a very nice flight.
That was a looonnnggg time ago.
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Then there was the old People Express terminal. It was tiny and had a low ceiling and People Express had a 747 flight from Newark to Boston. The terminal was built for small airplanes and the 747 was not small, it was a shoulder-to-shoulder cattle car, but it was cheap.
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Then there was the old People Express terminal. It was tiny and had a low ceiling and People Express had a 747 flight from Newark to Boston. The terminal was built for small airplanes and the 747 was not small, it was a shoulder-to-shoulder cattle car, but it was cheap.
wrote 15 days ago last edited by@Copper said in ATC guy: avoid Newark ‘at all costs’:
Then there was the old People Express terminal. It was tiny and had a low ceiling and People Express had a 747 flight from Newark to Boston. The terminal was built for small airplanes and the 747 was not small, it was a shoulder-to-shoulder cattle car, but it was cheap.
Wow!! That seems like it would be a really short flight. It would probably never fly at the proper height. LOL. Get up to height, and when it got there, start going down for the landing.
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How does that possibly happen? The systems are not redundant failover? That’s scary.
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Most pilots are trained to look out the window.