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Revisiting Tariffs on Imports from China

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 01:11 last edited by
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    https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/major-us-toymaker-speeds-up-plan-move-manufacturing-out-china-2025-03-13/

    A major supplier of toys to Walmart (WMT.N), opens new tab and Target (TGT.N), opens new tab is accelerating its shift out of China as it reshapes production amid President Donald Trump's intensifying trade war with the country.

    California-based MGA Entertainment, which makes its Bratz and L.O.L. Surprise! dolls and other toys primarily in China, is taking steps to move 40% of its manufacturing to India, Vietnam and Indonesia within six or so months, up from around 10% to 15% currently, CEO Isaac Larian said in an interview.

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      Horace
      wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 01:21 last edited by
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      It's of reasonable strategic importance for the US to not rely on china for so much of its manufacturing. I like moving it to other low-labor-cost countries. I don't like generalized tariffs that would make it cost effective to manufacture the stuff in the US. Targeted tariffs against countries that we would like to rely on less are ok.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • H Horace
        14 Mar 2025, 01:21

        It's of reasonable strategic importance for the US to not rely on china for so much of its manufacturing. I like moving it to other low-labor-cost countries. I don't like generalized tariffs that would make it cost effective to manufacture the stuff in the US. Targeted tariffs against countries that we would like to rely on less are ok.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 01:38 last edited by
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        @Horace said in Revisiting Tariffs on Imports from China:

        It's of reasonable strategic importance for the US to not rely on china for so much of its manufacturing.

        Agree.

        I think in maybe 50 years or so, Africa will be the low cost world manufacturing "hub"

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        • H Horace
          14 Mar 2025, 01:21

          It's of reasonable strategic importance for the US to not rely on china for so much of its manufacturing. I like moving it to other low-labor-cost countries. I don't like generalized tariffs that would make it cost effective to manufacture the stuff in the US. Targeted tariffs against countries that we would like to rely on less are ok.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 14:05 last edited by
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          @Horace said in Revisiting Tariffs on Imports from China:

          It's of reasonable strategic importance for the US to not rely on china for so much of its manufacturing. I like moving it to other low-labor-cost countries. I don't like generalized tariffs that would make it cost effective to manufacture the stuff in the US. Targeted tariffs against countries that we would like to rely on less are ok.

          +1

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          • T taiwan_girl
            14 Mar 2025, 01:38

            @Horace said in Revisiting Tariffs on Imports from China:

            It's of reasonable strategic importance for the US to not rely on china for so much of its manufacturing.

            Agree.

            I think in maybe 50 years or so, Africa will be the low cost world manufacturing "hub"

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            Jolly
            wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 16:32 last edited by
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            @taiwan_girl said in Revisiting Tariffs on Imports from China:

            @Horace said in Revisiting Tariffs on Imports from China:

            It's of reasonable strategic importance for the US to not rely on china for so much of its manufacturing.

            Agree.

            I think in maybe 50 years or so, Africa will be the low cost world manufacturing "hub"

            Ain't happening.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Horace
              wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 18:04 last edited by
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              Maybe Nigeria can export its culture to the rest of the continent. I mean, I don't know anything about Nigerian culture, other than how well its representatives do in the west, but I'm assuming.

              Education is extremely important.

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 18:13 last edited by
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                No one probably predicted 50-75 years ago that Bangledesh would be a "superpower" in making clothes for the world.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 18:20 last edited by
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                  An economically integrated African continent sure would be nice.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    14 Mar 2025, 18:20

                    An economically integrated African continent sure would be nice.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 18:28 last edited by
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                    @Horace said in Revisiting Tariffs on Imports from China:

                    An economically integrated African continent sure would be nice.

                    Kiss the Serengeti goodbye.

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on 17 Apr 2025, 02:22 last edited by
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                      The number of canceled sailings of freight vessels out of China is picking up as ocean carriers attempt to manage a pullback in orders due to the trade war and tariffs.
                      A steep decline in containers being shipped to the U.S. will have a big impact on the supply chain, from port to trucking, rail and warehouse economics.
                      "We won't go to zero containers, but we will see a decrease in containers and as a result, in the future we will see a massive raft of blank sailings announced," one freight expert tells CNBC.

                      U.S. importers are being notified of an increase in canceled sailings by freight ships out of China as ocean carriers try to balance the pullback in orders resulting from President Trump's tariffs and the escalation of tensions in the trade war.

                      A total of 80 blank, or canceled, sailings out of China have been recorded by freight company HLS Group. It wrote in a recent note to clients that with the trade war between China and the U.S. leading to a demand plummet, carriers have started to suspend or adjust transpacific services.

                      https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/business/money-report/trade-war-fallout-cancellations-of-chinese-freight-ships-begin-as-bookings-plummet/6227862/

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 17 Apr 2025, 03:56 last edited by Axtremus
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                        File this under “Trump as a cultural phenomenon,” I guess. Just some online e-commerce platform researcher’s observations on how China’s e-commerce people view Trump:

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/16/opinion/trump-tariffs-china-ecommerce.html

                        In China, one of many nicknames for President Trump is Chuan Jianguo. It literally translates as “Trump the Nation Builder.” … The joke is that Mr. Trump … is diligently advancing Chinese interests by causing chaos in the United States.

                        So perhaps it makes sense that so many Shenzhen merchants seem to admire Mr. Trump as a businessman, if not as a leader. Their affection, as I understand it, is complicated, as their admiration is now tempered with upset at his new tariff regime. ... But many share a sense that, however painful they may be in the short term, the tariffs will eventually spur China to assume its rightful place as the world’s leader and the beacon of a new phase of globalization that’s no longer centered on America.

                        And then there is this:

                        On Taobao, a Chinese domestic e-commerce platform, you can buy a ceramic statue of Mr. Trump to bring good luck to your business.

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                        Search for “xitian dongfo trump” if you want to find one on Amazon. Though the versions on Amazon would more likely be resin rather than ceramic.

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                        • H Horace
                          14 Mar 2025, 18:04

                          Maybe Nigeria can export its culture to the rest of the continent. I mean, I don't know anything about Nigerian culture, other than how well its representatives do in the west, but I'm assuming.

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                          Wim
                          wrote on 20 Apr 2025, 08:47 last edited by
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                          @Horace I have my doubts....

                          https://globalchristianrelief.org/christian-persecution/stories/palm-sunday-attack-nigeria/

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 28 Apr 2025, 00:59 last edited by
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                            As good a place as any to put this article

                            https://www.aol.com/finance/huge-decline-la-port-hit-094500870.

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                            On Thursday, the founder of a media firm that tracks shipping trends reported that daily volumes this week are equivalent to Thanksgiving and Christmas Day—the two slowest shipping days of the year. The founder, Craig Fuller, also warned truckers to avoid hauling shipments to Los Angeles since they would likely have to “deadhead” back home—the industry term for driving an empty load

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 28 Apr 2025, 01:28 last edited by
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                              So much winning.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                kluurs
                                wrote on 28 Apr 2025, 01:49 last edited by
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                                Nuther thing that is landing is that on Friday, the de minimus (items less than $800) is eliminated which means that a huge amount of trade that was excaping the tariffs will be affected - only about a gazillion pieces per year. It will affect a lot of businesses.

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