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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Mik said in SCOTUS:

    The admin should have returned him. As far as I can see there's no reason to deem him a gang member. He was here legally under an asylum claim.

    Meh, a lot of the media claims about his perfect behavior are incorrect. The guy has been arrested on multiple occasions and has also been denied bail by a a judge due to his gang affiliations. There is more to this story…

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    @LuFins-Dad said in SCOTUS:

    @Mik said in SCOTUS:

    The admin should have returned him. As far as I can see there's no reason to deem him a gang member. He was here legally under an asylum claim.

    Meh, a lot of the media claims about his perfect behavior are incorrect. The guy has been arrested on multiple occasions and has also been denied bail by a a judge due to his gang affiliations. There is more to this story…

    I haven't seen any of that. Do you have a link I can review?

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Away
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      OK, I looked him up. That isn't the guy I was thinking of.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/04/supreme-court-allows-trump-to-halt-millions-in-teacher-training-grants/

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/supreme-court-allows-trump-to-enforce-alien-enemies-act-for-rapid-deportations-for-now/ar-AA1CtIIZ?ocid=BingNewsVerp

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        @Jolly said in SCOTUS:

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/supreme-court-allows-trump-to-enforce-alien-enemies-act-for-rapid-deportations-for-now/ar-AA1CtIIZ?ocid=BingNewsVerp

        Weird how they spin this as a victory when the court took away their one reason for invoking the AEA to begin with.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • MikM Away
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          Mik
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          Still, if you’re going to stick someone in max security in El Salvador, you’d better have something more than vague tattoos.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            Yeah SCOTUS is requiring that they get their day in court, and Trump invoked the AEA so as to avoid that.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              SCOTUS blocked the administration from punishing AP for their speech.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • MikM Away
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                Sounds right.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  9-0, get the administrative error guy back from El Salvador.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    If they can.

                    BTW, did they give Trump a mechanism to do so?

                    Margolis' take:

                    https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/04/11/democrats-cheering-ms-13-gang-members-return-missed-a-key-detail-in-scotus-ruling-n4938799

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      Alexander Graham Bell gave it to them.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Read the decision.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          Scotus halts Alien Enemies Act deportations.

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                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            7-2?

                            The Brad

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              Yep. Alito is going to issue a statement.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Yep. Alito is going to issue a statement.

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                                @jon-nyc said in SCOTUS:

                                Yep. Alito is going to issue a statement.

                                If I read correctly, he did not necessary disagree with the decision, but more the timing.

                                https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alito-blasts-unprecedented-scotus-move-halt-trumps-venezuelan-deportations-legally-questionable

                                Alito disapproved of the timing of the decision, which he described as being "literally in the middle of the night."

                                "[T]he Court issued unprecedented and legally questionable relief without giving the lower courts a chance to rule, without hearing from the opposing party, within eight hours of receiving the application, with dubious factual support for its order, and without providing any explanation for its order," Alito wrote.

                                The justice, who has served on the court since 2006, was joined by Justice Clarence Thomas in his dissent.

                                "I refused to join the Court’s order because we had no good reason to think that, under the circumstances, issuing an order at midnight was necessary or appropriate," Alito continued.

                                "Both the Executive and the Judiciary have an obligation to follow the law. The Executive must proceed under the terms of our order in Trump v. J. G. G., 604 U. S. ___ (2025) (per curiam), and this Court should follow established procedures."

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