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    Jolly
    wrote on 8 Apr 2025, 14:21 last edited by
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    https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/04/supreme-court-allows-trump-to-halt-millions-in-teacher-training-grants/

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/supreme-court-allows-trump-to-enforce-alien-enemies-act-for-rapid-deportations-for-now/ar-AA1CtIIZ?ocid=BingNewsVerp

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Jolly
      wrote on 8 Apr 2025, 14:23 last edited by
      #2

      Most of the SCOTUS news revolved around this one person...

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-asks-us-supreme-court-to-pause-order-to-return-man-deported-to-el-salvador-in-error/ar-AA1CsvnJ?ocid=BingNewsVerp

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Mik
        wrote on 8 Apr 2025, 15:51 last edited by Mik 4 Aug 2025, 15:51
        #3

        The admin should have returned him. As far as I can see there's no reason to deem him a gang member. He was here legally under an asylum claim.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • M Mik
          8 Apr 2025, 15:51

          The admin should have returned him. As far as I can see there's no reason to deem him a gang member. He was here legally under an asylum claim.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 8 Apr 2025, 15:59 last edited by
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          @Mik said in SCOTUS:

          The admin should have returned him. As far as I can see there's no reason to deem him a gang member. He was here legally under an asylum claim.

          Meh, a lot of the media claims about his perfect behavior are incorrect. The guy has been arrested on multiple occasions and has also been denied bail by a a judge due to his gang affiliations. There is more to this story…

          The Brad

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            Horace
            wrote on 8 Apr 2025, 16:06 last edited by
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            Too bad they don't have his high school graduation picture.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • L LuFins Dad
              8 Apr 2025, 15:59

              @Mik said in SCOTUS:

              The admin should have returned him. As far as I can see there's no reason to deem him a gang member. He was here legally under an asylum claim.

              Meh, a lot of the media claims about his perfect behavior are incorrect. The guy has been arrested on multiple occasions and has also been denied bail by a a judge due to his gang affiliations. There is more to this story…

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              Mik
              wrote on 8 Apr 2025, 16:06 last edited by
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              @LuFins-Dad said in SCOTUS:

              @Mik said in SCOTUS:

              The admin should have returned him. As far as I can see there's no reason to deem him a gang member. He was here legally under an asylum claim.

              Meh, a lot of the media claims about his perfect behavior are incorrect. The guy has been arrested on multiple occasions and has also been denied bail by a a judge due to his gang affiliations. There is more to this story…

              I haven't seen any of that. Do you have a link I can review?

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Mik
                wrote on 8 Apr 2025, 16:07 last edited by
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                OK, I looked him up. That isn't the guy I was thinking of.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • J Jolly
                  8 Apr 2025, 14:21

                  https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/04/supreme-court-allows-trump-to-halt-millions-in-teacher-training-grants/

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/supreme-court-allows-trump-to-enforce-alien-enemies-act-for-rapid-deportations-for-now/ar-AA1CtIIZ?ocid=BingNewsVerp

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 8 Apr 2025, 17:54 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in SCOTUS:

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/supreme-court-allows-trump-to-enforce-alien-enemies-act-for-rapid-deportations-for-now/ar-AA1CtIIZ?ocid=BingNewsVerp

                  Weird how they spin this as a victory when the court took away their one reason for invoking the AEA to begin with.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 8 Apr 2025, 19:53 last edited by
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                    Still, if you’re going to stick someone in max security in El Salvador, you’d better have something more than vague tattoos.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 8 Apr 2025, 19:57 last edited by
                      #10

                      Yeah SCOTUS is requiring that they get their day in court, and Trump invoked the AEA so as to avoid that.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 8 Apr 2025, 21:37 last edited by
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                        SCOTUS blocked the administration from punishing AP for their speech.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Mik
                          wrote on 8 Apr 2025, 21:41 last edited by
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                          Sounds right.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 14:13 last edited by jon-nyc 4 Nov 2025, 14:14
                            #13

                            9-0, get the administrative error guy back from El Salvador.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 16:01 last edited by Jolly 4 Nov 2025, 16:19
                              #14

                              If they can.

                              BTW, did they give Trump a mechanism to do so?

                              Margolis' take:

                              https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/04/11/democrats-cheering-ms-13-gang-members-return-missed-a-key-detail-in-scotus-ruling-n4938799

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 16:31 last edited by jon-nyc 4 Nov 2025, 16:32
                                #15

                                Alexander Graham Bell gave it to them.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 11 Apr 2025, 17:28 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Read the decision.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote 30 days ago last edited by
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                                    Scotus halts Alien Enemies Act deportations.

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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote 30 days ago last edited by
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                                      7-2?

                                      The Brad

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote 30 days ago last edited by
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                                        Yep. Alito is going to issue a statement.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                                          30 days ago

                                          Yep. Alito is going to issue a statement.

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in SCOTUS:

                                          Yep. Alito is going to issue a statement.

                                          If I read correctly, he did not necessary disagree with the decision, but more the timing.

                                          https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alito-blasts-unprecedented-scotus-move-halt-trumps-venezuelan-deportations-legally-questionable

                                          Alito disapproved of the timing of the decision, which he described as being "literally in the middle of the night."

                                          "[T]he Court issued unprecedented and legally questionable relief without giving the lower courts a chance to rule, without hearing from the opposing party, within eight hours of receiving the application, with dubious factual support for its order, and without providing any explanation for its order," Alito wrote.

                                          The justice, who has served on the court since 2006, was joined by Justice Clarence Thomas in his dissent.

                                          "I refused to join the Court’s order because we had no good reason to think that, under the circumstances, issuing an order at midnight was necessary or appropriate," Alito continued.

                                          "Both the Executive and the Judiciary have an obligation to follow the law. The Executive must proceed under the terms of our order in Trump v. J. G. G., 604 U. S. ___ (2025) (per curiam), and this Court should follow established procedures."

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