The Cabinet Thread
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There was seemingly scripted obsequiousness from each cabinet member praising Trump for his greatness, before they gave their update.
@Horace said in The Cabinet Thread:
There was seemingly scripted obsequiousness from each cabinet member praising Trump for his greatness, before they gave their update.
Presumably this was T's idea. He's a weird bloke alright.
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And this is where too much focus on Trump will blur your vision. There is a lot of news going on here, particularly from Kennedy, but y'all are worried about Trump's Cabinet saying something nice about the boss, before launching into their statements.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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I think it's somewhat relevant. This seems to be a "tell me the best news" type of meeting whereas if I were running the meeting, it would be very similar to my large IT project meetings where people are asked to talk about what is going well, but are required to identify something not going well that we should try to fix. Admittedly I didn't watch the full cabinet meeting but I'd imagine there isn't very much "Mr. President, this is where our administration is screwing up" type of agenda items.
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BTW Hegseth's update about signing an agreement to allow "first and free" passage for US vessels in the Panama Canal is interesting. The US accounts for about 40% of traffic (so of 14,000 annual ships, that would be 5,600 ships a year), at an average fee of $325,000 (sometimes lower, sometimes over a million, so we'll stick with the average). This would mean Panama Canal is letting the USA use the canal for free (???) and foregoing 1.9 billion dollars in revenue, almost half their revenue, that is likely needed for operations and to pay off a recent debt to expand the canal.
All of that being said, unfortunately I don't really trust anything the administration says right now about the canal given how Trump lied so much about how many lives were lost building it. It's not all TDS from me though...I do like the emphasis on US military control in the area given the importance of the canal for commerce and peace.
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And this is where too much focus on Trump will blur your vision. There is a lot of news going on here, particularly from Kennedy, but y'all are worried about Trump's Cabinet saying something nice about the boss, before launching into their statements.
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
And this is where too much focus on Trump will blur your vision. There is a lot of news going on here, particularly from Kennedy, but y'all are worried about Trump's Cabinet saying something nice about the boss, before launching into their statements.
It's a sales presentation, not an actual source of information. I wouldn't expect anything else, obviously. Everybody does this kind of thing.
I just find the toadying a little nauseating. I'm sure we've all had to work with brown-nosers. In the workplace they're generally a source of great amusement, typically followed by great irritation when they inevitably get promoted.
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@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
And this is where too much focus on Trump will blur your vision. There is a lot of news going on here, particularly from Kennedy, but y'all are worried about Trump's Cabinet saying something nice about the boss, before launching into their statements.
It's a sales presentation, not an actual source of information. I wouldn't expect anything else, obviously. Everybody does this kind of thing.
I just find the toadying a little nauseating. I'm sure we've all had to work with brown-nosers. In the workplace they're generally a source of great amusement, typically followed by great irritation when they inevitably get promoted.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
And this is where too much focus on Trump will blur your vision. There is a lot of news going on here, particularly from Kennedy, but y'all are worried about Trump's Cabinet saying something nice about the boss, before launching into their statements.
It's a sales presentation, not an actual source of information. I wouldn't expect anything else, obviously. Everybody does this kind of thing.
I just find the toadying a little nauseating. I'm sure we've all had to work with brown-nosers. In the workplace they're generally a source of great amusement, typically followed by great irritation when they inevitably get promoted.
Trump has an ego, no argument. But if you read a bit about how he interacts with subordinates in private, he does listen. Often to several disagreeing views. But once he makes his decision, everybody better get on board. And you don't second-guess him in public.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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BTW Hegseth's update about signing an agreement to allow "first and free" passage for US vessels in the Panama Canal is interesting. The US accounts for about 40% of traffic (so of 14,000 annual ships, that would be 5,600 ships a year), at an average fee of $325,000 (sometimes lower, sometimes over a million, so we'll stick with the average). This would mean Panama Canal is letting the USA use the canal for free (???) and foregoing 1.9 billion dollars in revenue, almost half their revenue, that is likely needed for operations and to pay off a recent debt to expand the canal.
All of that being said, unfortunately I don't really trust anything the administration says right now about the canal given how Trump lied so much about how many lives were lost building it. It's not all TDS from me though...I do like the emphasis on US military control in the area given the importance of the canal for commerce and peace.
@89th said in The Cabinet Thread:
BTW Hegseth's update about signing an agreement to allow "first and free" passage for US vessels in the Panama Canal is interesting. The US accounts for about 40% of traffic (so of 14,000 annual ships, that would be 5,600 ships a year), at an average fee of $325,000 (sometimes lower, sometimes over a million, so we'll stick with the average). This would mean Panama Canal is letting the USA use the canal for free (???) and foregoing 1.9 billion dollars in revenue, almost half their revenue, that is likely needed for operations and to pay off a recent debt to expand the canal.
All of that being said, unfortunately I don't really trust anything the administration says right now about the canal given how Trump lied so much about how many lives were lost building it. It's not all TDS from me though...I do like the emphasis on US military control in the area given the importance of the canal for commerce and peace.
If you remember, Hegseth was dispatched to Panama right after Trump was sworn in. There's some interesting things going on down there...Chinese involvement, the Mexican rail plan and the possibility of another canal.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
And this is where too much focus on Trump will blur your vision. There is a lot of news going on here, particularly from Kennedy, but y'all are worried about Trump's Cabinet saying something nice about the boss, before launching into their statements.
It's a sales presentation, not an actual source of information. I wouldn't expect anything else, obviously. Everybody does this kind of thing.
I just find the toadying a little nauseating. I'm sure we've all had to work with brown-nosers. In the workplace they're generally a source of great amusement, typically followed by great irritation when they inevitably get promoted.
Trump has an ego, no argument. But if you read a bit about how he interacts with subordinates in private, he does listen. Often to several disagreeing views. But once he makes his decision, everybody better get on board. And you don't second-guess him in public.
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
And this is where too much focus on Trump will blur your vision. There is a lot of news going on here, particularly from Kennedy, but y'all are worried about Trump's Cabinet saying something nice about the boss, before launching into their statements.
It's a sales presentation, not an actual source of information. I wouldn't expect anything else, obviously. Everybody does this kind of thing.
I just find the toadying a little nauseating. I'm sure we've all had to work with brown-nosers. In the workplace they're generally a source of great amusement, typically followed by great irritation when they inevitably get promoted.
Trump has an ego, no argument. But if you read a bit about how he interacts with subordinates in private, he does listen. Often to several disagreeing views. But once he makes his decision, everybody better get on board. And you don't second-guess him in public.
I wouldn't expect his cabinet to disagree with him in public, it's part of the job. The horribly contrived over-the-top flattery is actually counterproductive IMHO because it makes them look obsequious.
Subtle he isn't.
I was only joking
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That’s the thing. ‘Thank you Mr President for letting me be part of this fantastic team’ is one thing.
‘Thanks entirely to the singular genius of comrade Stalin we will have the best wheat harvest the world has ever seen’ is quite another.
Trump’s preference is toward the latter.
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I swear to God, if somebody said that in a meeting where I worked, I'd have coffee leaving my body through multiple orifices.
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@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
And this is where too much focus on Trump will blur your vision. There is a lot of news going on here, particularly from Kennedy, but y'all are worried about Trump's Cabinet saying something nice about the boss, before launching into their statements.
It's a sales presentation, not an actual source of information. I wouldn't expect anything else, obviously. Everybody does this kind of thing.
I just find the toadying a little nauseating. I'm sure we've all had to work with brown-nosers. In the workplace they're generally a source of great amusement, typically followed by great irritation when they inevitably get promoted.
Trump has an ego, no argument. But if you read a bit about how he interacts with subordinates in private, he does listen. Often to several disagreeing views. But once he makes his decision, everybody better get on board. And you don't second-guess him in public.
I wouldn't expect his cabinet to disagree with him in public, it's part of the job. The horribly contrived over-the-top flattery is actually counterproductive IMHO because it makes them look obsequious.
Subtle he isn't.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
And this is where too much focus on Trump will blur your vision. There is a lot of news going on here, particularly from Kennedy, but y'all are worried about Trump's Cabinet saying something nice about the boss, before launching into their statements.
It's a sales presentation, not an actual source of information. I wouldn't expect anything else, obviously. Everybody does this kind of thing.
I just find the toadying a little nauseating. I'm sure we've all had to work with brown-nosers. In the workplace they're generally a source of great amusement, typically followed by great irritation when they inevitably get promoted.
Trump has an ego, no argument. But if you read a bit about how he interacts with subordinates in private, he does listen. Often to several disagreeing views. But once he makes his decision, everybody better get on board. And you don't second-guess him in public.
I wouldn't expect his cabinet to disagree with him in public, it's part of the job. The horribly contrived over-the-top flattery is actually counterproductive IMHO because it makes them look obsequious.
Subtle he isn't.
No, the American people did not vote for subtle.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
And this is where too much focus on Trump will blur your vision. There is a lot of news going on here, particularly from Kennedy, but y'all are worried about Trump's Cabinet saying something nice about the boss, before launching into their statements.
It's a sales presentation, not an actual source of information. I wouldn't expect anything else, obviously. Everybody does this kind of thing.
I just find the toadying a little nauseating. I'm sure we've all had to work with brown-nosers. In the workplace they're generally a source of great amusement, typically followed by great irritation when they inevitably get promoted.
Trump has an ego, no argument. But if you read a bit about how he interacts with subordinates in private, he does listen. Often to several disagreeing views. But once he makes his decision, everybody better get on board. And you don't second-guess him in public.
I wouldn't expect his cabinet to disagree with him in public, it's part of the job. The horribly contrived over-the-top flattery is actually counterproductive IMHO because it makes them look obsequious.
Subtle he isn't.
No, the American people did not vote for subtle.
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
No, the American people did not vote for subtle.
Oh, so now we can't criticise him because that's what America voted for?
I don't remember you saying that for the previous 4 years, or for that matter between 2008 and 2016.
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@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
No, the American people did not vote for subtle.
Oh, so now we can't criticise him because that's what America voted for?
I don't remember you saying that for the previous 4 years, or for that matter between 2008 and 2016.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
No, the American people did not vote for subtle.
Oh, so now we can't criticise him because that's what America voted for?
I don't remember you saying that for the previous 4 years, or for that matter between 2008 and 2016.
The American people knew what they were getting in Trump. I seem to recall him being POTUS before this term.
The Resident was a product of COVID, the Democrat Machine and a compromised legacy media that asked little of The Big Guy, except what flavor ice cream he liked.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
No, the American people did not vote for subtle.
Oh, so now we can't criticise him because that's what America voted for?
I don't remember you saying that for the previous 4 years, or for that matter between 2008 and 2016.
The American people knew what they were getting in Trump. I seem to recall him being POTUS before this term.
The Resident was a product of COVID, the Democrat Machine and a compromised legacy media that asked little of The Big Guy, except what flavor ice cream he liked.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
No, the American people did not vote for subtle.
Oh, so now we can't criticise him because that's what America voted for?
I don't remember you saying that for the previous 4 years, or for that matter between 2008 and 2016.
The American people knew what they were getting in Trump. I seem to recall him being POTUS before this term.
The Resident was a product of COVID, the Democrat Machine and a compromised legacy media that asked little of The Big Guy, except what flavor ice cream he liked.
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Cabinet Thread:
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
No, the American people did not vote for subtle.
Oh, so now we can't criticise him because that's what America voted for?
I don't remember you saying that for the previous 4 years, or for that matter between 2008 and 2016.
The American people knew what they were getting in Trump. I seem to recall him being POTUS before this term.
The Resident was a product of COVID, the Democrat Machine and a compromised legacy media that asked little of The Big Guy, except what flavor ice cream he liked.
I'm pretty sure the electorate knew what they were getting in 2012, too. One of the reasons they voted the way they did in 2020 was the connection Biden had to Obama. Now, the bubble you live in may consider Obama one step down from The Antichrist, but a significant chunk of the country didn't feel that way.
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No, the world I live in views Obama as incompetent and a product of the Chicago Machine.
Great potential unrealized.
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No, the world I live in views Obama as incompetent and a product of the Chicago Machine.
Great potential unrealized.
@Jolly said in The Cabinet Thread:
No, the world I live in views Obama as incompetent and a product of the Chicago Machine.
Great potential unrealized.
But he was what the American people wanted at the time.
