100% American Made Car

[LuFins Dad]

@89th said in 100% American Made Car:

I haven't tracked this news story, too lazy to google. I heard 25% tax on consumers for any car imported to the USA. Does that just mean companies will do most of the work outside the country (e.g., Mexico) then bring it over for final assembly so they can stamp "Made in America" on it? Also... a car made in Mexico is American, btw.

No, foreign made components are hit, too.

[LuFins Dad]

As far as possible? Sure. You would have to drop some of the more sophisticated electronics for the time being, and it surely would be much more expensive, but you could do it.

[Jolly]

32% of the Ford F-150 is made of American parts. The percentage goes up if the engine is the 2.7L turbo V6. Ford has 16 plants outside of the U.S.

[89th]

I was thinking about selling my CRV for something else, maybe Honda Pilot, for the family of 5... may hold off on that a while if the price might jump up $5-10k thanks to Trump's tax. Also... if car prices do go up that much (who knows), and later tariffs are removed, how motivated do you think manufacturers will be to suddenly lower the price that consumers just got used to paying?

[LuFins Dad]

@89th said in 100% American Made Car:

I was thinking about selling my CRV for something else, maybe Honda Pilot, for the family of 5... may hold off on that a while if the price might jump up $5-10k thanks to Trump's tax. Also... if car prices do go up that much (who knows), and later tariffs are removed, how motivated do you think manufacturers will be to suddenly lower the price that consumers just got used to paying?

Doesn’t that make this the time to do it? Before the tariffs take effect? Just saying…

[89th]

Yeah but I think you have to do it before like April 3rd, and I'm going to a water park next week. A very expensive water park trip, now, apparently.

[LuFins Dad]

@89th said in 100% American Made Car:

Yeah but I think you have to do it before like April 3rd, and I'm going to a water park next week. A very expensive water park trip, now, apparently.

The financing deals are pretty fair right now…

[jon-nyc]

I asked ChatGPT how many of the 10 cheapest economy cars are made in the US.

Determining the exact number of the ten cheapest economy cars sold in the U.S. that are manufactured domestically requires specific data on each model’s assembly location. However, based on available information, several of these affordable models are assembled within the United States. Here’s an overview:
1. Nissan Versa: Assembled in Mexico. 
2. Hyundai Venue: Assembled in South Korea.
3. Chevrolet Trax: The 2025 model is assembled in South Korea. 
4. Kia Soul: Assembled in South Korea.
5. Nissan Sentra: Assembled in Mexico. 
6. Kia K4: Assembled in Mexico.
7. Hyundai Elantra: Assembled in the United States at Hyundai’s plant in Montgomery, Alabama. 
8. Toyota Corolla: Assembled in the United States at Toyota’s plant in Blue Springs, Mississippi.
9. Volkswagen Jetta: Assembled in Mexico. 
10. Toyota Corolla Hatchback: Assembled in Japan.

Based on this information, two out of the ten cheapest economy cars—the Hyundai Elantra and Toyota Corolla sedan—are assembled in the United States.

[xenon]

Corolla seems like it would be a winner on the face of things. But would that mean more profits flowing out of the US to Japan?

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in 100% American Made Car:

I asked ChatGPT how many of the 10 cheapest economy cars are made in the US.

Determining the exact number of the ten cheapest economy cars sold in the U.S. that are manufactured domestically requires specific data on each model’s assembly location. However, based on available information, several of these affordable models are assembled within the United States. Here’s an overview:

1. Nissan Versa: Assembled in Mexico. 
2. Hyundai Venue: Assembled in South Korea.
3. Chevrolet Trax: The 2025 model is assembled in South Korea. 
4. Kia Soul: Assembled in South Korea.
5. Nissan Sentra: Assembled in Mexico. 
6. Kia K4: Assembled in Mexico.
7. Hyundai Elantra: Assembled in the United States at Hyundai’s plant in Montgomery, Alabama. 
8. Toyota Corolla: Assembled in the United States at Toyota’s plant in Blue Springs, Mississippi.
9. Volkswagen Jetta: Assembled in Mexico. 
10. Toyota Corolla Hatchback: Assembled in Japan.

Based on this information, two out of the ten cheapest economy cars—the Hyundai Elantra and Toyota Corolla sedan—are assembled in the United States.

Assembled is the key word, here. Where are the parts coming from.

[jon-nyc]

Who knows. All of them have plenty of parts from abroad I would bet. And I don’t know how the tariffs are going to deal with that. Ironic that the Chevy will get penalized more than the Toyota.

[xenon]

Tariffs = massive inefficiencies through compliance and surface for corruption. We’ve already learned these lessons. It’s not theory.

[LuFins Dad]

[Jolly]

@xenon said in 100% American Made Car:

Tariffs = massive inefficiencies through compliance and surface for corruption. We’ve already learned these lessons. It’s not theory.

Catch Vance's speech today?

[xenon]

Have not. Got a link? Is this soeech from a military base? (I assume they couldn’t find any Greenlander to actually host them)

[Jolly]

What a crass fucking comment.

Find your own damn link.

[xenon]

You know what’s crass, these dorks ogling their neighbor’s lands. Especially when those neighbors find it disgusting.

[Renauda]

@Jolly said in 100% American Made Car:

What a crass fucking comment.

Find your own damn link.

Been called out again or just spilling water, eh Foghorn?

555

[Renauda]

@xenon said in 100% American Made Car:

Have not. Got a link? Is this soeech from a military base? (I assume they couldn’t find any Greenlander to actually host them)

Here’s a link by Timothy Snyder who, although overall correct in his assessment, will not go over well with a few posters here:

https://open.substack.com/pub/snyder/p/vance-in-greenland?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

[jon-nyc]

'A lot of costs, and a lot of chaos' - Ford CEO Jim Farley

Asked if production could be moved back to the United States, as Trump has suggested will happen, the executive said there are many challenges with that approach.

“If you’ve ever done a home renovation, you know that anything is feasible if you put enough money behind it, right? But economically feasible is a different question,” said the executive. “It takes time, particularly since we are close to capacity in most facilities still coming out of the supply chain crunch. So you’re talking investing in new physical capacity in the US, which has a very long lead time.”

But even if the tariffs stay in place throughout Trump’s term, and they’re not part of a negotiating strategy to change the USMCA North American free trade agreement, automakers say it is difficult to build plants based on one administration’s tariff policy.

“It’s three years at best for brand new automotive capacity that could potentially span into a new administration, where the rules could change,” said the executive. “So just by the time that capacity was coming online, you might find that was no longer your optimal footprint.”

And automakers are still unsure which tariffs are permanent, and which are simply a “negotiating tactic,” former Ford CEO Mark Fields said in an interview with CNBC.

“Most boards are going to wait for the smoke to clear,” Fields said.