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  • X xenon

    I think the overall argument against the DOE is that their funding has been going at at the same time student achievement has been plummeting. So what’s the point?

    I think the real answer is probably more cultural.

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    @xenon said in Department of Education:

    I think the overall argument against the DOE is that their funding has been going at at the same time student achievement has been plummeting. So what’s the point?

    I think the real answer is probably more cultural.

    When they barred the kids from going to school during COVID, a lot of parents finally came face to face with what they're children were learning. Since COVID, we have had a boom in homeschooling and private schools. And it's not the cream that's being left behind in the public schools.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      I don’t think the DOE does what people here think it does.

      Over half the budget is federal student aid - Pell grants, federal loans, etc. You going to zero that out? Another 30% or so are grants to K-12. You going to zero that out? 5% supports career and vocational training. Are we going to zero that out?

      This will be like what he did to NAFTA. Basically rebrand it but leave it mostly unchanged.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        I didn’t realize that… that seems like more of an admin agency then

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          No doubt the Doge kids can find some silly sounding DEI grants and save 3-4% of the budget. So there’s that.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            Jesus.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              Jesus.

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              @jon-nyc said in Department of Education:

              Jesus.

              I think it's a fictional account. He's got a book out called Detective Jesus #1.

              I was only joking

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                Let's not shoot the messenger. Whether or not that's a fictional account, the fact remains that 25% of our students are testing in the lower quartile.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  And the poor people in Africa have no quartiles at all.

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                    25 cents US could feed an entire village for a month.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Because both parents, if there are two parents, are chasing the almighty dollar in today's ever more costly world
                      just to pay the electricity. Kids today do not receive quality parenting as a result. They expect the schools to take that over. Jon is right The DOE is not so much the curriculum creator that one thinks but is more another leg of American socialism, trying to fiscally take care of the less fortunate. The Right has shown their colors this time around without trying to hide it now, social programs cost too much when we have to keep lowering our donors' tax bills. It's really weird because they are supposed to represent their constituents who comprise MAGA and lesser zealots. But the very programs they want to kill are the ones their consituents need to get by. This government has gone full tilt. Greed is the reason the DOE will die.

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                        Just like something like 80% of all US males of driving age think that they are above average drivers! LOL

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