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Trump is the reason

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    For unemployment...

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/12/kamala_harris_delivers_first_campaign_speech_trump_is_the_reason_millions_of_americans_are_unemployed.html

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Offline
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      #2

      Ridiculous.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        #3

        Didn’t click the link but the depth and duration of unemployment we suffer has and will correlate with the quality of our response. So yes, a more competent president would preside over less.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Didn’t click the link but the depth and duration of unemployment we suffer has and will correlate with the quality of our response. So yes, a more competent president would preside over less.

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #4

          @jon-nyc said in Trump is the reason:

          Didn’t click the link but the depth and duration of unemployment we suffer has and will correlate with the quality of our response. So yes, a more competent president would preside over less.

          Ever hear of COVID?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #5

            Indeed I have.

            When I said ‘quality of our response’ I meant our response to Covid.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Indeed I have.

              When I said ‘quality of our response’ I meant our response to Covid.

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #6

              @jon-nyc said in Trump is the reason:

              Indeed I have.

              When I said ‘quality of our response’ I meant our response to Covid.

              Trump made mistakes. That is inevitable in any rapid government response to a threat.

              What should he have done different (using the info he had at the time of his decision) and what difference would that have made to unemployment?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                #7

                I know I've said this before, but my biggest gripe with Trump's response to Covid was the lack of clarity. He contradicted his own briefings on Twitter, and undermined his own experts. Sometimes his inability to stick to message was breathtaking (no pun intended).

                There's a time and a place for acting like a loose cannon. The middle of a pandemic isn't it.

                Did it make a difference to unemployment? Probably not. Did it make a difference to people's behaviour? Almost certainly.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  I know I've said this before, but my biggest gripe with Trump's response to Covid was the lack of clarity. He contradicted his own briefings on Twitter, and undermined his own experts. Sometimes his inability to stick to message was breathtaking (no pun intended).

                  There's a time and a place for acting like a loose cannon. The middle of a pandemic isn't it.

                  Did it make a difference to unemployment? Probably not. Did it make a difference to people's behaviour? Almost certainly.

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                  taiwan_girl
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump is the reason:

                  There's a time and a place for acting like a loose cannon. The middle of a pandemic isn't it.
                  Did it make a difference to unemployment? Probably not. Did it make a difference to people's behaviour? Almost certainly.

                  👆

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump is the reason:

                    There's a time and a place for acting like a loose cannon. The middle of a pandemic isn't it.
                    Did it make a difference to unemployment? Probably not. Did it make a difference to people's behaviour? Almost certainly.

                    👆

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                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump is the reason:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump is the reason:

                    There's a time and a place for acting like a loose cannon. The middle of a pandemic isn't it.
                    Did it make a difference to unemployment? Probably not. Did it make a difference to people's behaviour? Almost certainly.

                    👆

                    Yes, he should have followed the well documented path that was obvious to all the experts. He could have saved the economy and we would have lost zero lives

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump is the reason:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump is the reason:

                      There's a time and a place for acting like a loose cannon. The middle of a pandemic isn't it.
                      Did it make a difference to unemployment? Probably not. Did it make a difference to people's behaviour? Almost certainly.

                      👆

                      Yes, he should have followed the well documented path that was obvious to all the experts. He could have saved the economy and we would have lost zero lives

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #10

                      @Copper said in Trump is the reason:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump is the reason:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump is the reason:

                      There's a time and a place for acting like a loose cannon. The middle of a pandemic isn't it.
                      Did it make a difference to unemployment? Probably not. Did it make a difference to people's behaviour? Almost certainly.

                      👆

                      Yes, he should have followed the well documented path that was obvious to all the experts. He could have saved the economy and we would have lost zero lives

                      Lack of consistency is what I was complaining about, not the path he chose. He said one thing during a press conference, then later that day would Tweet something completely at odds with his earlier message.

                      If you think that's an unfair criticism, well, let's say I wouldn't be particularly surprised.

                      I was only joking

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                        Larry
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                        Oh, fuck.... Trump said AT THE TIME what the experts were telling him AT THE TIME. The experts kept changing their minds, and now you want to hang it around Trumps neck. God help us.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @jon-nyc said in Trump is the reason:

                          Indeed I have.

                          When I said ‘quality of our response’ I meant our response to Covid.

                          Trump made mistakes. That is inevitable in any rapid government response to a threat.

                          What should he have done different (using the info he had at the time of his decision) and what difference would that have made to unemployment?

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          @Jolly said in Trump is the reason:

                          Trump made mistakes.

                          So the theory here is that Trump made mistakes, but those mistakes had absolutely no negative impact on the economy, none of any kind?

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @Jolly said in Trump is the reason:

                            Trump made mistakes.

                            So the theory here is that Trump made mistakes, but those mistakes had absolutely no negative impact on the economy, none of any kind?

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Trump is the reason:

                            @Jolly said in Trump is the reason:

                            Trump made mistakes.

                            So the theory here is that Trump made mistakes, but those mistakes had absolutely no negative impact on the economy, none of any kind?

                            I wouldn't say zero mistakes vis-a-vis the economy. But I think if anything, Trump made his mistakes trying to keep the economy going as much as possible.

                            As for the medical stuff, there are still experts disagreeing on aspects of how we handle COVID. I'm like Larry in one aspect...I think Trump changed messages depending on what he was hearing at the time, at least for the most part.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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