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Another Plane incident

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
    wrote on last edited by
    #14

    Good analysis btw. Basically a combination of a hard landing but a gust that made the right wing dip and strike the ground, which caused everything else…

    Link to video

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      #15

      Just landed in DC. They said to expect turbulence and a bump landing but that was the smoothest landing I can ever recall. Pilots might be extra cautious these days.

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      • 89th8 89th

        Just landed in DC. They said to expect turbulence and a bump landing but that was the smoothest landing I can ever recall. Pilots might be extra cautious these days.

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        @89th Glad you made it safe and sound!!

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          #17

          I wonder how many commercial pilots have wrecked an airliner and continued in their careers. Can’t be that many.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I wonder how many commercial pilots have wrecked an airliner and continued in their careers. Can’t be that many.

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            #18

            @jon-nyc said in Another Plane incident:

            how many commercial pilots have wrecked an airliner and continued in their careers

            There were a couple well known I can think of.

            There was Jeff Skiles (Sully's co-pilot in the Hudson)
            And Gene Roddenberry (yes, that Gene Roddenberry)
            https://www.slashfilm.com/1644000/gene-roddenberry-star-trek-survived-plane-crashes/
            Neil Armstrong broke a few flying machines
            Harrison Ford broke at least a couple

            Most by make and model

            Most crashes

            • Cessna: Has been involved in 56,084 plane crashes
            • Piper: Has been involved in 35,802 plane crashes
            • Beech: Has been involved in 12,395 plane crashes

            I flew Cessna, Piper, Diamond and Beech, no crash.

            Most fatalities

            • Boeing 737-200: Has caused 906 fatalities
            • Boeing 747: The Tenerife airport disaster in 1977 resulted in 583 fatalities when a KLM Boeing 747 collided with a Pan Am 747
            • Boeing 727: From 1959 to 2020, the Boeing 727 had the most fatal hull losses of any commercial jet
            • Boeing 737 MAX: The MAX 8 variant had two fatal hull losses in 2018 and 2019
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            • 89th8 Offline
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              I’m sad no one zoomed into my iPad (laptop) picture. Especially @George-K

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                jon-nyc
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                #20

                So apparently the percentage of people who think flying is ‘unsafe’ or ‘somewhat unsafe’ increased from 10% last year to 40% today.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • CopperC Offline
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                  Kind of like vaccines.

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                    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/preliminary-report-released-delta-air-lines-crash-1.7488494

                    A warning system on the Delta Air Lines flight that crashed at Pearson airport last month sent an alert indicating a high rate of descent less than three seconds before the plane touched down, according to a preliminary report.

                    Less than a second before touchdown, the plane's rate of descent was 1,110 feet per minute. The flight manual defines a hard landing as a "landing at a vertical descent rate greater than 600 ft/min when the aircraft's gross weight is less than or equal to [maximum landing weight]," the report says.

                    The Delta Air Lines flight weighed less than its maximum allowable take-off weight at the time of the crash.

                    The report also says that less than a second before landing, the angle of the plane's aircraft, known as the pitch attitude, was one degree. The flight operations manual states pitch attitude at touchdown should be between three and eight degrees, the report said.

                    and

                    "At touchdown, the following occurred: the side-stay that is attached to the right [main landing gear] fractured, the landing gear folded into the retracted position, the wing root fractured between the fuselage and the landing gear, and the wing detached from the fuselage, releasing a cloud of jet fuel, which caught fire," the report said.

                    "The exact sequence of these events is still to be determined by further examination of the fracture surfaces."

                    The plane then began to slide along the runway, eventually going off the right side into a snow-covered grass area and coming to rest on Runway 15L, near the intersection with Runway 23

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                      They forgot the ending event of the PLANE FLIPPING UPSIDE DOWN.

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