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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Heard an analyst today say we’re only a few years from EVs charging as fast as an ICE fills its gas tank. Cool if true.

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    @jon-nyc said in EV charging progress:

    Heard an analyst today say we’re only a few years from EVs charging as fast as an ICE fills its gas tank. Cool if true.

    I seem to remember hearing something similar a few years ago.

    I was only joking

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      325km of charge in 10m is already pretty good.

      If you’re driving a long distance, you’re ready for a 10m break after 200mi.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        325km of charge in 10m is already pretty good.

        If you’re driving a long distance, you’re ready for a 10m break after 200mi.

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        @jon-nyc said in EV charging progress:

        325km of charge in 10m is already pretty good.

        If you’re driving a long distance, you’re ready for a 10m break after 200mi.

        The exact wording Mercedes used was 'the CLA can add up to 186 miles of charge in ten swift minutes'.

        Which is great if true, but 'up to 186 miles' sounds like maybe they're being a bit optimistic?

        I was only joking

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          It’s always a range based on charging conditions, temperature and battery age mostly

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            It’s always a range based on charging conditions, temperature and battery age mostly

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            @jon-nyc said in EV charging progress:

            It’s always a range based on charging conditions, temperature and battery age mostly

            I've also seen TV commercials where I can lease a car for about $180 a month, but if you actually apply....

            I was only joking

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              But does the whole system support these kinds of loading currents reliably?

              If you have ten loading stations in one place, then presumably at most two of them or so could charge at those speeds at the same time. If many people in different places charge at such speeds at the same time, the whole energy network might be in trouble.

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                I’m not that worried about that since they won’t become ubiquitous overnight. I suspect people can beef up the grid at a sped sufficient to support real life take up. Unless the government stops them.

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                  I wonder how this is going to work if EV is replaced relatively quickly by a better technology. I really have a hard time thinking of batteries as the solution to our carbon addiction.

                  I was only joking

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                    Progress will overcome the objections over time, assuming something better doesn't come along.

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                      We were looking at sodium ion batteries at a committee last week, and they seem to be on the verge of becoming more widely adopted. Sodium is obviously a lot easier to get hold of than lithium.

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                        Cleaner too.

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                          Thought the battery exchange idea that TG posted about was actually the most efficient way to rapidly recharge.

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                                BYD cars are all over Thailand. Relatively cheap though dont know about the safety of them.

                                Re: battery charging time. Not surprised but is coming faster than I thought it would.

                                I wonder how Toyota is doing with its' fuel cell technology. That seemed like it may be a good idea and a good option of Li batteries.

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                                  @89th said in EV charging progress:

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                                  That's kind of what worries me. When things go wrong with 1000 kW it can get quite spectacular. And things will go wrong if the general public are involved.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    What’s cool too is advances is charging technology means the battery doesn’t have to be as big because the range doesn’t have to be as large. Then it weighs less, uses less power. A virtuous circle.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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