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Now he’s gone too far!

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #1

    This lunatic has to be stopped!

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/sap/2025/03/10/aluminum-and-steel-tariffs-what-do-you-mean-my-beer-will-cost-more/

    The Brad

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Glass bottles.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
        #3

        Never trust a teetotaler.

        And I speak as somebody who comes from Preston, where the godforsaken movement originally started.

        I was only joking

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          This lunatic has to be stopped!

          https://www.forbes.com/sites/sap/2025/03/10/aluminum-and-steel-tariffs-what-do-you-mean-my-beer-will-cost-more/

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          Axtremus
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          #4

          @LuFins-Dad said in Now he’s gone too far!:

          This lunatic ...

          Which lunatic?

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Glass bottles.

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @Jolly said in Now he’s gone too far!:

            Glass bottles.

            Fine for piss water or Belgian Quads….

            The Brad

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by Jolly
              #6

              Sadly, this sounds like a man who has never watched a cute redneck gal do amazing demonstrations with a longneck bottle. 😈

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • MikM Offline
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                #7

                I prefer glass anyway.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  #8

                  Glass thicker and heavier than aluminum; raises shipping costs.

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                  • MikM Mik

                    I prefer glass anyway.

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                    @Mik said in Now he’s gone too far!:

                    I prefer glass anyway.

                    The contents usually taste better.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      #10

                      https://shunbeer.com/article/is-it-cheaper-to-buy-beer-in-cans-or-bottles

                      When it comes to the cost of beer, there are several factors to consider, including the container in which it is packaged. While bottles and cans serve the same purpose, they differ in terms of manufacturing and packaging costs, which can ultimately impact the price that consumers pay. In this regard, bottles are generally more expensive to manufacture and package than cans, and this additional cost can be passed on to the consumer, making bottled beer relatively more expensive than canned beer.

                      There are several reasons why bottles are more expensive to manufacture and package. Firstly, the cost of the raw materials used in glass production is relatively high, and the process of transforming these materials into glass bottles requires a lot of heat and energy. The heavy weight of glass bottles also contributes to higher transportation costs, as more fuel is needed to move them from one place to another. Additionally, glass bottles are fragile and can break easily, which can lead to increased costs due to breakage during production, storage, and transportation.

                      On the other hand, cans, typically made of aluminum, offer cost advantages in several areas. The manufacturing process for aluminum cans is generally more efficient and less costly compared to glass bottle production. This is partly due to the lower cost of the raw materials used in aluminum production, as well as the energy efficiency of the manufacturing process. Aluminum cans are also lighter and more compact than glass bottles, which translates to reduced storage and shipping costs for breweries and distributors. The lightweight nature of aluminum cans also makes them easier to stack and transport, further reducing overall costs.

                      The economic considerations don't end with manufacturing and packaging. The choice between bottles and cans can also impact other aspects of the beer distribution process and influence the final cost to the consumer. For example, bottles are associated with a more traditional and premium image, which can affect consumer perception and influence their buying decisions. Bottled beer is often perceived as a mark of quality and authenticity, and consumers may be willing to pay a higher price for this perceived premium product. On the other hand, cans are gaining popularity due to their practicality, environmental benefits, and ability to maintain beer freshness. As a result, breweries that offer canned beer can tap into new markets, expand their customer base, and potentially increase their sales and revenue.

                      While bottles may be more expensive to manufacture and package, it's worth noting that other factors can also influence the cost of beer. For example, specialty aged or casked beers are often sold in brown bottles to protect the flavors from light exposure, and these bottled beers can be significantly more expensive than canned beers. Additionally, the brand, size, pricing, volume, transportation costs, and popularity of a particular beer can also impact the price, regardless of whether it is packaged in a bottle or a can. Ultimately, the decision between bottles and cans depends on various factors, including personal preference, the specific context of consumption, and the priorities of both the brewery and the consumer.

                      and this table

                      Characteristics Values
                      Price Cans are cheaper to buy, but bottles are reusable, which can make them more cost-effective in the long run.

                      Taste Bottles are better for preserving the taste of beer, especially if it has a higher ABV or uses Belgian yeast. However, cans are better at protecting the taste of beer from oxidation and light exposure.

                      Portability Cans are more lightweight, stackable, and easier to transport. They are also allowed at many public events and recreation areas for safety reasons.

                      Environmental Impact Glass bottles have a larger carbon footprint than cans due to the heat required to produce them and the energy used during transportation. Aluminum cans are more easily recycled and have a lower carbon footprint.

                      Consumer Perception Bottles are traditionally associated with craft beer and are often seen as a mark of quality and authenticity. However, consumer perception is evolving, and canned beer is gaining in popularity.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        https://shunbeer.com/article/is-it-cheaper-to-buy-beer-in-cans-or-bottles

                        When it comes to the cost of beer, there are several factors to consider, including the container in which it is packaged. While bottles and cans serve the same purpose, they differ in terms of manufacturing and packaging costs, which can ultimately impact the price that consumers pay. In this regard, bottles are generally more expensive to manufacture and package than cans, and this additional cost can be passed on to the consumer, making bottled beer relatively more expensive than canned beer.

                        There are several reasons why bottles are more expensive to manufacture and package. Firstly, the cost of the raw materials used in glass production is relatively high, and the process of transforming these materials into glass bottles requires a lot of heat and energy. The heavy weight of glass bottles also contributes to higher transportation costs, as more fuel is needed to move them from one place to another. Additionally, glass bottles are fragile and can break easily, which can lead to increased costs due to breakage during production, storage, and transportation.

                        On the other hand, cans, typically made of aluminum, offer cost advantages in several areas. The manufacturing process for aluminum cans is generally more efficient and less costly compared to glass bottle production. This is partly due to the lower cost of the raw materials used in aluminum production, as well as the energy efficiency of the manufacturing process. Aluminum cans are also lighter and more compact than glass bottles, which translates to reduced storage and shipping costs for breweries and distributors. The lightweight nature of aluminum cans also makes them easier to stack and transport, further reducing overall costs.

                        The economic considerations don't end with manufacturing and packaging. The choice between bottles and cans can also impact other aspects of the beer distribution process and influence the final cost to the consumer. For example, bottles are associated with a more traditional and premium image, which can affect consumer perception and influence their buying decisions. Bottled beer is often perceived as a mark of quality and authenticity, and consumers may be willing to pay a higher price for this perceived premium product. On the other hand, cans are gaining popularity due to their practicality, environmental benefits, and ability to maintain beer freshness. As a result, breweries that offer canned beer can tap into new markets, expand their customer base, and potentially increase their sales and revenue.

                        While bottles may be more expensive to manufacture and package, it's worth noting that other factors can also influence the cost of beer. For example, specialty aged or casked beers are often sold in brown bottles to protect the flavors from light exposure, and these bottled beers can be significantly more expensive than canned beers. Additionally, the brand, size, pricing, volume, transportation costs, and popularity of a particular beer can also impact the price, regardless of whether it is packaged in a bottle or a can. Ultimately, the decision between bottles and cans depends on various factors, including personal preference, the specific context of consumption, and the priorities of both the brewery and the consumer.

                        and this table

                        Characteristics Values
                        Price Cans are cheaper to buy, but bottles are reusable, which can make them more cost-effective in the long run.

                        Taste Bottles are better for preserving the taste of beer, especially if it has a higher ABV or uses Belgian yeast. However, cans are better at protecting the taste of beer from oxidation and light exposure.

                        Portability Cans are more lightweight, stackable, and easier to transport. They are also allowed at many public events and recreation areas for safety reasons.

                        Environmental Impact Glass bottles have a larger carbon footprint than cans due to the heat required to produce them and the energy used during transportation. Aluminum cans are more easily recycled and have a lower carbon footprint.

                        Consumer Perception Bottles are traditionally associated with craft beer and are often seen as a mark of quality and authenticity. However, consumer perception is evolving, and canned beer is gaining in popularity.

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @taiwan_girl said in Now he’s gone too far!:

                        Consumer Perception Bottles are traditionally associated with craft beer and are often seen as a mark of quality and authenticity. However, consumer perception is evolving, and canned beer is gaining in popularity.

                        I'm not sure that's true in the US. Just about all the expensive IPA's I see being sold are in those canned 4-packs. In the UK, it's different, and the craftier beers are sold in bottles.

                        I was only joking

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                          Funny, I remember when craft beer in cans was an absolute travesty. Then came along Oskar Blues Brewery's "Dale's Pale Ale" in a can, and the industry started to realize how much easier it made the "bottling" process and cheaper goods, and cheaper distribution. Yes, @Doctor-Phibes most crafts are now in cans, usually 16-ouncers.

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