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  • H Horace
    12 Sept 2024, 15:25

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

    @Horace said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

    The fact that Carlson has long been divorced from any mainstream right, goes conveniently unacknowledged.

    I thought he was like massively popular among American conservatives. I read it right here.

    It might be a divorce, but it was pretty amicable.

    Conservatives still like him more than they like Maddow, that won't be changing any time soon. One plays the media hand one is dealt.

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 12 Sept 2024, 16:44 last edited by
    #86

    @Horace said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

    Conservatives still like him more than they like Maddow, that won't be changing any time soon. One plays the media hand one is dealt.

    Presumably, not watching either of them would be considered un-American.

    I was only joking

    H 1 Reply Last reply 12 Sept 2024, 18:21
    • D Doctor Phibes
      12 Sept 2024, 16:44

      @Horace said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

      Conservatives still like him more than they like Maddow, that won't be changing any time soon. One plays the media hand one is dealt.

      Presumably, not watching either of them would be considered un-American.

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      Horace
      wrote on 12 Sept 2024, 18:21 last edited by
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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

      @Horace said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

      Conservatives still like him more than they like Maddow, that won't be changing any time soon. One plays the media hand one is dealt.

      Presumably, not watching either of them would be considered un-American.

      Watching does not imply slavishly trusting.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • H Horace
        12 Sept 2024, 15:24

        @jon-nyc said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

        You think Bari Weis would have made that up or copied it from a twitter rando?

        I doubt a great deal of care was applied in verifying the quote or its context. I also tend to give some grace to people that they may say things in certain contexts that they wouldn't categorically avow in an adversarial dunking contest. You'll never listen to or read anything from Cooper, but if you did, I doubt you'd come away with the impression that he's a fascist.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 12 Sept 2024, 18:24 last edited by Renauda 9 Dec 2024, 18:25
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        @Horace

        You'll never listen to or read anything from Cooper, but if you did, I doubt you'd come away with the impression that he's a fascist.

        As already stated above, I listened to the WWII portion of the FuCa interview. I was not left with impression that Cooper was a Fascist nor did I think that he was much of an apologist for Hitler. I did however leave with the impression he could not be described as an historian. At best, I would regard him as a reader of history whose understanding of his subject is stunted for undisclosed reasons. In short, an example of intellectual immaturity masquerading as enlightenment.

        Not sure if he has any sort of world view or ideological outlook other than what he thinks might be a part time libertarian of convenience or ersatz Objectivist because he read excerpts or an abridgement of Atlas Shrugged for Dummies.

        Elbows up!

        H 1 Reply Last reply 12 Sept 2024, 18:39
        • H Horace
          12 Sept 2024, 18:21

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

          @Horace said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

          Conservatives still like him more than they like Maddow, that won't be changing any time soon. One plays the media hand one is dealt.

          Presumably, not watching either of them would be considered un-American.

          Watching does not imply slavishly trusting.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 12 Sept 2024, 18:28 last edited by Doctor Phibes 9 Dec 2024, 18:29
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          @Horace said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

          @Horace said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

          Conservatives still like him more than they like Maddow, that won't be changing any time soon. One plays the media hand one is dealt.

          Presumably, not watching either of them would be considered un-American.

          Watching does not imply slavishly trusting.

          Isn't that what drama shows are for?

          I mean, far be it from to suggest that people are wasting their lives watching Tucker Carlson when they could be watching actual cartoons or something.

          Maybe I'm weird, but I don't see the appeal of watching these talking heads spouting utter shite. There's so much that's genuinely worth listening to.

          If you want to learn about history, and you honestly think a good place to start is Tucker Carlson, then it might be worth re-evaluating your life-choices.

          I was only joking

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          • R Renauda
            12 Sept 2024, 18:24

            @Horace

            You'll never listen to or read anything from Cooper, but if you did, I doubt you'd come away with the impression that he's a fascist.

            As already stated above, I listened to the WWII portion of the FuCa interview. I was not left with impression that Cooper was a Fascist nor did I think that he was much of an apologist for Hitler. I did however leave with the impression he could not be described as an historian. At best, I would regard him as a reader of history whose understanding of his subject is stunted for undisclosed reasons. In short, an example of intellectual immaturity masquerading as enlightenment.

            Not sure if he has any sort of world view or ideological outlook other than what he thinks might be a part time libertarian of convenience or ersatz Objectivist because he read excerpts or an abridgement of Atlas Shrugged for Dummies.

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            Horace
            wrote on 12 Sept 2024, 18:39 last edited by
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            @Renauda said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

            @Horace

            You'll never listen to or read anything from Cooper, but if you did, I doubt you'd come away with the impression that he's a fascist.

            As already stated above, I listened to the WWII portion of the FuCa interview. I was not left with impression that Cooper was a Fascist nor did I think that he was much of an apologist for Hitler. I did however leave with the impression he could not be described as an historian. At best, I would regard him as a reader of history whose understanding of his subject is stunted for undisclosed reasons. In short, an example of intellectual immaturity masquerading as enlightenment.

            Not sure if he has any sort of world view or ideological outlook other than what he thinks might be a part time libertarian of convenience or ersatz Objectivist because he read excerpts or an abridgement of Atlas Shrugged for Dummies.

            Certainly that is all fair enough. I appreciate opinions that aren't simple recitations of dunks from Twitter.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • H Horace
              12 Sept 2024, 18:39

              @Renauda said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

              @Horace

              You'll never listen to or read anything from Cooper, but if you did, I doubt you'd come away with the impression that he's a fascist.

              As already stated above, I listened to the WWII portion of the FuCa interview. I was not left with impression that Cooper was a Fascist nor did I think that he was much of an apologist for Hitler. I did however leave with the impression he could not be described as an historian. At best, I would regard him as a reader of history whose understanding of his subject is stunted for undisclosed reasons. In short, an example of intellectual immaturity masquerading as enlightenment.

              Not sure if he has any sort of world view or ideological outlook other than what he thinks might be a part time libertarian of convenience or ersatz Objectivist because he read excerpts or an abridgement of Atlas Shrugged for Dummies.

              Certainly that is all fair enough. I appreciate opinions that aren't simple recitations of dunks from Twitter.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 12 Sept 2024, 19:34 last edited by
              #91

              @Horace

              Thank you. I do not consult Twitter or X for my information or news. The only time I encounter it is here; the odd time it is worth exploring further but for most part it is facile gossip and a waste of bandwidth.

              Elbows up!

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 13:50 last edited by
                #92

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 16:33 last edited by
                  #93

                  Thread necromancy has limited appeal. It's like trying to pick up a conversation from years ago.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 16:40 last edited by
                    #94

                    Not in this case. It’s a new conversation. But it’s the same nut case expounding bs so it seemed appropriate.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly
                      14 Mar 2025, 16:33

                      Thread necromancy has limited appeal. It's like trying to pick up a conversation from years ago.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 14 Mar 2025, 16:45 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

                      Thread necromancy has limited appeal. It's like trying to pick up a conversation from years ago.

                      Especially when it exposes an inconvenient truth about one’s tribal affiliations. Right?

                      Elbows up!

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