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The Latest Car Technology Is Starting to Drive People Nuts

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
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    https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/drivers-high-tech-cars-preferences-28ab9584

    Drivers are finding they wish the smart technology in their cars was just a bit dumber.

    Automakers have added new tech features in the 2020s that go beyond the touch screens, assisted-driving systems and companion phone apps that have become ubiquitous in new cars. Some vehicles come with infrared night vision, seasonal ambient lighting and interior “fam cams” showing rear passengers.

    Many drivers say it is too much. The share who had positive feelings about the intuitiveness of their car’s controls fell from 79% in 2015 to 56% in 2024, according to surveys of new-car buyers by Strategic Vision, a market-research firm. The trend was similar for drivers’ perceptions of dashboard displays, screen interfaces and the layout of the instrument panel.

    and

    In January, Vincent Dufault-Bédard tried and failed to remotely start charging his 2024 Volkswagen ID.4 electric car using its phone app. The 36-year-old engineer in Montreal scurried out into the 15° night in shorts and flip-flops, thinking he would be back indoors quickly.

    But the car doors wouldn’t open because their sensor-equipped handles were on the fritz in the cold. He ended up having to shimmy into his car through the trunk.

    “Just give me a normal door handle,” said Dufault-Bédard.

    and

    Touch screens are a touchy subject for drivers like Jake Pratte. He sees them as both an annoyance and a potential hazard. Changing settings can require multiple taps and usually doesn’t deliver physical feedback like the twist of a knob or the press of a button.

    “You have to sit there and stare at what you’re doing, which means you’re taking your eyes off the road,” said Pratte, a 35-year-old project manager in the St. Louis area.

    I agree with the above especially. If you drive a car long enough, it is easy to feel by touch what buttons you need to move, etc. Almost impossible to do with a touch screen.

    My car is kind of old, so I dont have to worry too much about it.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      I agree. There are some newish features I love. 360 camera, heads-up display, heated and cooled seats.

      All the auto braking crap? The arbitrary incomprehensible rules governing which door controls work when? Detest it.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/drivers-high-tech-cars-preferences-28ab9584

        Drivers are finding they wish the smart technology in their cars was just a bit dumber.

        Automakers have added new tech features in the 2020s that go beyond the touch screens, assisted-driving systems and companion phone apps that have become ubiquitous in new cars. Some vehicles come with infrared night vision, seasonal ambient lighting and interior “fam cams” showing rear passengers.

        Many drivers say it is too much. The share who had positive feelings about the intuitiveness of their car’s controls fell from 79% in 2015 to 56% in 2024, according to surveys of new-car buyers by Strategic Vision, a market-research firm. The trend was similar for drivers’ perceptions of dashboard displays, screen interfaces and the layout of the instrument panel.

        and

        In January, Vincent Dufault-Bédard tried and failed to remotely start charging his 2024 Volkswagen ID.4 electric car using its phone app. The 36-year-old engineer in Montreal scurried out into the 15° night in shorts and flip-flops, thinking he would be back indoors quickly.

        But the car doors wouldn’t open because their sensor-equipped handles were on the fritz in the cold. He ended up having to shimmy into his car through the trunk.

        “Just give me a normal door handle,” said Dufault-Bédard.

        and

        Touch screens are a touchy subject for drivers like Jake Pratte. He sees them as both an annoyance and a potential hazard. Changing settings can require multiple taps and usually doesn’t deliver physical feedback like the twist of a knob or the press of a button.

        “You have to sit there and stare at what you’re doing, which means you’re taking your eyes off the road,” said Pratte, a 35-year-old project manager in the St. Louis area.

        I agree with the above especially. If you drive a car long enough, it is easy to feel by touch what buttons you need to move, etc. Almost impossible to do with a touch screen.

        My car is kind of old, so I dont have to worry too much about it.

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        @taiwan_girl said in The Latest Car Technology Is Starting to Drive People Nuts:

        Changing settings can require multiple taps and usually doesn’t deliver physical feedback like the twist of a knob or the press of a button.

        Funny. I had a 2016 Accord (loved it), but it had a touch/slide volume control, which bothered me. Sure I used the volume control on the steering wheel instead, but when we later got the CRV (and Odyssey), the circle knob to control the volume was a great tactile feature to have back!

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          Agreed I recently bought a 2017 manual car. It’s refreshingly simple.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Technology costs money. To buy and to repair.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              There is this “safety feature” that attempts to detect if the driver is sitting upright with his/her eyes open and looking forward, and the car beeps if it cannot “detect” the driver’s eyes looking forward. Problem is the implementation results in too many false negatives — they car keep beeping even when the driver really is sitting up and alert with his/her eyes looking forward, and the beeping becomes a distraction to the driver. Worse, there is no way to disable this supposed “safety feature.”

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
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                #7

                Mine does that too. Usually a few times on every longish drive.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  Klaus
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                  #8

                  I've got to keep that in mind the next time I buy a car:

                  No annoying safety features

                  No ads on my screen

                  Real door handles, doors that can be opened with a physical key

                  Real buttons for the most important functions (e.g. my partner drives a new Mercedes and volume can only be controlled with a touchscreen slider - so annoying!).

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    Our 2017 Terrain (now daughter's) had all these lane departure warnings that were oversensitive and quite annoying. I turned them off.

                    It's part of a trend of technology trying to "help" you and it's aggravating. I see it all the time in software. Ugh.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      My problem with the auto-braking is you can't just disable it once. You can disable it, but it turns itself back on every time you start the car. And it's several levels deep in the screen menu.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        My problem with the auto-braking is you can't just disable it once. You can disable it, but it turns itself back on every time you start the car. And it's several levels deep in the screen menu.

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                        @jon-nyc said in The Latest Car Technology Is Starting to Drive People Nuts:

                        My problem with the auto-braking is you can't just disable it once. You can disable it, but it turns itself back on every time you start the car. And it's several levels deep in the screen menu.

                        Not on our Honda. There’s a button on the dash. Same for the lane departure. What I dislike about them is the all or nothing approach. It would be useful to get a beep if I am drifting, it’s another thing to have the steering wheel start to fight me a little.

                        The Brad

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                          I can disable the lane nanny with a button on the dash. And I can stop the beeping when something is nearby with a button on the dash (thank god since I have a bike rack on the trailer hitch half the year). But not the auto braking.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • MikM Away
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                            I wish they'd put lane warning on semis. One just about ran me off the road Monday night.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              More tech and distraction is bad

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                              • MikM Mik

                                I wish they'd put lane warning on semis. One just about ran me off the road Monday night.

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                                @Mik said in The Latest Car Technology Is Starting to Drive People Nuts:

                                I wish they'd put lane warning on semis. One just about ran me off the road Monday night.

                                I had to rent a U-Haul last Saturday to transport 8 digital pianos. The lack of even a backup camera or back sensors was really surprising.

                                The Brad

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  I wish they'd put lane warning on semis. One just about ran me off the road Monday night.

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                                  @Mik said in The Latest Car Technology Is Starting to Drive People Nuts:

                                  I wish they'd put lane warning on semis. One just about ran me off the road Monday night.

                                  They don't need one.

                                  You moved, didn't you? 😄

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    blondie
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                                    I’m pretty tech adverse. Did I read touch screens were being banned for new vehicles in Europe come 2026? I’m holding tight with my 2014 Honda til it falls apart.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @Mik said in The Latest Car Technology Is Starting to Drive People Nuts:

                                      I wish they'd put lane warning on semis. One just about ran me off the road Monday night.

                                      They don't need one.

                                      You moved, didn't you? 😄

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                                      Mik
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                                      @Jolly said in The Latest Car Technology Is Starting to Drive People Nuts:

                                      @Mik said in The Latest Car Technology Is Starting to Drive People Nuts:

                                      I wish they'd put lane warning on semis. One just about ran me off the road Monday night.

                                      They don't need one.

                                      You moved, didn't you? 😄

                                      Quickly, yes.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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