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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
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    #2

    What absolute bollocks, although well written (fun to read). To start, it wasn't even a SOTU speech, but I suppose that's nuanced.

    The author sucks up every Trump lie as if it was the truth.

    Heck, the author reminded me of Trump saying this:

    “To unshackle our economy, I have directed that for every one new regulation, 10 old regulations must be eliminated, just like I did in my very successful first term. And in that first term, we set records on ending unnecessary rules and regulations like no other president had done before.”

    Again a lie, absolute bullshit. A very thorough analysis of regulations under Trump 1.0 was done, you can read the full report here: https://download.ssrn.com/21/06/21/ssrn_id3871240_code615352.pdf

    In short, in his first term he had executive orders of a 2:1 ratio (not 10:1) and further, at the end of the term, Trump said he cut 25,000 pages of regulations when in reality, he started with 185,000 pages and ended with 186,000 pages... he added 1,000 pages in net total. It literally went up 1,000 and not down 25,000.

    He just MAKES SHIT UP hoping no one fact checks it. And most folks don't.

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      89th
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      The bigger drops in regulations were in 1954, 1957, and 1962 (10% drops), Reagan saw 5.3% drop, and Clinton saw a 4.4% drop... Trump saw a 0.5% increase.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #4

        Can't stand it, huh? 😄

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          AndyD
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          #5

          "Plants are opening up all over the place"
          What have opened so far?

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          • A AndyD

            "Plants are opening up all over the place"
            What have opened so far?

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
            #6

            @AndyD said in Overlooked?:

            "Plants are opening up all over the place"
            What have opened so far?

            Daffodils. Not around here, sadly.

            I was only joking

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              As Trump said the other night, nothing he could do or say...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                AndyD
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                I take it that the answer to my question is
                Zero.

                How is construction of the Mexican wall coming along?

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  As Trump said the other night, nothing he could do or say...

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #9

                  @Jolly said in Overlooked?:

                  As Trump said the other night, nothing he could do or say...

                  See my sig. Honestly, plants, spring, daffodils?

                  Bueller? Bueller?

                  I was only joking

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    As Trump said the other night, nothing he could do or say...

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                    #10

                    @Jolly said in Overlooked?:

                    As Trump said the other night, nothing he could do or say...

                    The problem is Jolly, is that the lies outnumber the truths, so it is hard to take anything seriously.

                    I know you said that all politicians lie, and that I agree with. But the problem with President Trump is that because he tells lies so frequently, people start to believe them.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @Jolly said in Overlooked?:

                      As Trump said the other night, nothing he could do or say...

                      The problem is Jolly, is that the lies outnumber the truths, so it is hard to take anything seriously.

                      I know you said that all politicians lie, and that I agree with. But the problem with President Trump is that because he tells lies so frequently, people start to believe them.

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                      @taiwan_girl said in Overlooked?:

                      The problem is Jolly, is that the lies outnumber the truths

                      How do you count something like that?

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                      • CopperC Copper

                        @taiwan_girl said in Overlooked?:

                        The problem is Jolly, is that the lies outnumber the truths

                        How do you count something like that?

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                        taiwan_girl
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                        @Copper said in Overlooked?:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Overlooked?:

                        The problem is Jolly, is that the lies outnumber the truths

                        How do you count something like that?

                        I write tick marks in chalk on my wall. DIfferent color for trues, another color for lies.

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                          Renauda
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                          #13

                          @taiwan_girl

                          555

                          Elbows up!

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            @Copper said in Overlooked?:

                            @taiwan_girl said in Overlooked?:

                            The problem is Jolly, is that the lies outnumber the truths

                            How do you count something like that?

                            I write tick marks in chalk on my wall. DIfferent color for trues, another color for lies.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @taiwan_girl said in Overlooked?:

                            @Copper said in Overlooked?:

                            @taiwan_girl said in Overlooked?:

                            The problem is Jolly, is that the lies outnumber the truths

                            How do you count something like that?

                            I write tick marks in chalk on my wall. DIfferent color for trues, another color for lies.

                            My, what a wall ...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • A AndyD

                              I take it that the answer to my question is
                              Zero.

                              How is construction of the Mexican wall coming along?

                              JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #15

                              @AndyD said in Overlooked?:

                              I take it that the answer to my question is
                              Zero.

                              How is construction of the Mexican wall coming along?

                              Pretty well.

                              Lowest number of illegals attempting to cross in more than 20 years.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                AndyD
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                                #16

                                Yes, good news on illegal immigration for you:
                                https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/03/world/americas/mexico-border-migration-trump-tariffs-deadline.html

                                As for the border wall/fence it's progressing:
                                https://nypost.com/2025/03/05/us-news/trump-hopes-to-finish-physical-border-wall-between-us-and-mexico-by-2029-vance-says/

                                Of course completion of similar walls in Britain, Germany and China prove the ultimate folly of such an endeavour.

                                It'll eventually be renamed Trump's Folly

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  Not necessarily, the border wall in the West Bank went a long way toward stopping bus bombings. But IMO highly visible deportation activity and, especially, raids at employers will do more to stop it. I still haven’t heard much about the latter. Maybe one story in NJ. Most of the big employers of illegals are red state businesses.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    I think we'll get there.

                                    Right now, the strategy is fourfold:

                                    1. Deport illegals that have committed serious crimes, either in the U.S. or in their home country.
                                    2. Noem's commercials have a very strong self-deport message...Leave now and come back legally, or if we catch you, you're never coming back legally.
                                    3. Border wall and border patrol. The wall is going up, and manpower is being shifted, including the military. Hegseth sent a Stryker brigade to the Southern Border this week.
                                    4. Since fentanyl has been declared a national emergency, Trump is putting the screws to Mexico and Canada to beef up border security. But he's sweetened the pot with Mexico by offering intelligence. OTOH, if Mexico had not tightened up, emergency powers allow POTUS to go weapons hot on a cartel.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • A AndyD

                                      I take it that the answer to my question is
                                      Zero.

                                      How is construction of the Mexican wall coming along?

                                      89th8 Offline
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                                      89th
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

                                      @AndyD said in Overlooked?:

                                      I take it that the answer to my question is
                                      Zero.

                                      How is construction of the Mexican wall coming along?

                                      The border is 2,000 miles long. I believe Trump had about 400 miles of fencing replaced and 80 miles of new border wall. Also Mexico didn’t pay a dime. Good campaign promise though, whatever gets him the W.

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