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The biggest scam in human history
Or possibly even worse!
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The untraceable payments just smells like pure BS. I’ve worked with enough companies to know that data tracking is usually shit.
Companies spend 6 months sometimes putting together things called “spend cubes”. They’ll pay the likes of McKinsey millions of dollars to do that.
They just found a database that wasn’t maintained well. That’s the norm.
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I don't think it's just a somewhat ill maintained database. I think it's a database that has subsets that don't mesh with each other, wide swaths of missing data and instances of pure incompetence. Whatever those reasons are, DOGE keeps coming up with significant lapses and funds that cannot be properly accounted for.
Is it as much as DOGE has claimed? Maybe. Maybe not. But it's still a mountain of money.
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What we've seen actual evidence of isn't particularly mind-blowing. There's a lot of hyperbole, for sure.
And the fact that government isn't very good at maintaining its data is about as surprising as the fact that there's a lot of hyperbole.
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What we've seen actual evidence of isn't particularly mind-blowing. There's a lot of hyperbole, for sure.
And the fact that government isn't very good at maintaining its data is about as surprising as the fact that there's a lot of hyperbole.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Highlights:
What we've seen actual evidence of isn't particularly mind-blowing. There's a lot of hyperbole, for sure.
And the fact that government isn't very good at maintaining its data is about as surprising as the fact that there's a lot of hyperbole.
Back in the days when medical labs still used a good bit of glass, the local VA would have Glass Day. Just before the end of the fiscal year and inventory, they'd break every piece of surplus glass they had. Sometimes having games behind the hospital, where they threw glass at hard targets or shot glass with BB guns. They did that, because any surplus would impact their budget for the next cycle.
They don't use much glass anymore, but the mentality still exists. I believe the lavishing of COVID money put departments into drunken sailor mode.
We have to return to sanity.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Highlights:
What we've seen actual evidence of isn't particularly mind-blowing. There's a lot of hyperbole, for sure.
And the fact that government isn't very good at maintaining its data is about as surprising as the fact that there's a lot of hyperbole.
Back in the days when medical labs still used a good bit of glass, the local VA would have Glass Day. Just before the end of the fiscal year and inventory, they'd break every piece of surplus glass they had. Sometimes having games behind the hospital, where they threw glass at hard targets or shot glass with BB guns. They did that, because any surplus would impact their budget for the next cycle.
They don't use much glass anymore, but the mentality still exists. I believe the lavishing of COVID money put departments into drunken sailor mode.
We have to return to sanity.
@Jolly said in Highlights:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Highlights:
What we've seen actual evidence of isn't particularly mind-blowing. There's a lot of hyperbole, for sure.
And the fact that government isn't very good at maintaining its data is about as surprising as the fact that there's a lot of hyperbole.
Back in the days when medical labs still used a good bit of glass, the local VA would have Glass Day. Just before the end of the fiscal year and inventory, they'd break every piece of surplus glass they had. Sometimes having games behind the hospital, where they threw glass at hard targets or shot glass with BB guns. They did that, because any surplus would impact their budget for the next cycle.
They don't use much glass anymore, but the mentality still exists. I believe the lavishing of COVID money put departments into drunken sailor mode.
We have to return to sanity.
Sure, fiscal responsibility would be great. I have a budget at work and at home, just like everybody. But that's really not what Elon is saying. He's off on a wild ride talking about the greatest scam in the history of humanity. It feels like connecting him to at least a semblance of reality would be nice.
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@Jolly said in Highlights:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Highlights:
What we've seen actual evidence of isn't particularly mind-blowing. There's a lot of hyperbole, for sure.
And the fact that government isn't very good at maintaining its data is about as surprising as the fact that there's a lot of hyperbole.
Back in the days when medical labs still used a good bit of glass, the local VA would have Glass Day. Just before the end of the fiscal year and inventory, they'd break every piece of surplus glass they had. Sometimes having games behind the hospital, where they threw glass at hard targets or shot glass with BB guns. They did that, because any surplus would impact their budget for the next cycle.
They don't use much glass anymore, but the mentality still exists. I believe the lavishing of COVID money put departments into drunken sailor mode.
We have to return to sanity.
Sure, fiscal responsibility would be great. I have a budget at work and at home, just like everybody. But that's really not what Elon is saying. He's off on a wild ride talking about the greatest scam in the history of humanity. It feels like connecting him to at least a semblance of reality would be nice.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Highlights:
connecting him to at least a semblance of reality
I hope that is what he is trying to do.
This topic is the reason Mr. Trump was elected 8 years ago.
This is why he was elected again.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Highlights:
connecting him to at least a semblance of reality
I hope that is what he is trying to do.
This topic is the reason Mr. Trump was elected 8 years ago.
This is why he was elected again.
@Copper said in Highlights:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Highlights:
connecting him to at least a semblance of reality
I hope that is what he is trying to do.
This topic is the reason Mr. Trump was elected 8 years ago.
This is why he was elected again.
No, it's really not. The debt and government overspend bizarrely don't seem to be things that worry people nearly as much as they ought to.
And Trump didn't help in the slightest in his first term. Covid notwithstanding, tax cuts and handouts didn't reduce the debt.
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The untraceable payments just smells like pure BS. I’ve worked with enough companies to know that data tracking is usually shit.
Companies spend 6 months sometimes putting together things called “spend cubes”. They’ll pay the likes of McKinsey millions of dollars to do that.
They just found a database that wasn’t maintained well. That’s the norm.
@xenon said in Highlights:
The untraceable payments just smells like pure BS. I’ve worked with enough companies to know that data tracking is usually shit.
Companies spend 6 months sometimes putting together things called “spend cubes”. They’ll pay the likes of McKinsey millions of dollars to do that.
They just found a database that wasn’t maintained well. That’s the norm.
Yeah my guess with the SS database issue is they have "date of death" entries but the status in the system is still not marked as "dead". I'd imagine the queries that rely on the database reference the date of death field to filter out who's not alive anymore, but who knows, it's all guesses. Same with the treasury payment categorization, I'm sure there's a reference number or something that traces it (left inner join, bro!) to a database with more descriptions.
Either way, I'm actually happy to see a renewed focus on where tax dollars are going and the data quality issues in the agencies. Maybe these semi-fake headlines are needed to bring attention to it, but sure would love to see more reliable facts. For example, the 1.9 billion that went to an NGO formed in the last year... ok, what is the name of the NGO? Or the "FEMA is using funds for illegals", yeah we've covered this, it was appropriated by Congress to do exactly that. Make the change in congressional appropriations, but on podcasts.
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@Copper said in Highlights:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Highlights:
connecting him to at least a semblance of reality
I hope that is what he is trying to do.
This topic is the reason Mr. Trump was elected 8 years ago.
This is why he was elected again.
No, it's really not. The debt and government overspend bizarrely don't seem to be things that worry people nearly as much as they ought to.
And Trump didn't help in the slightest in his first term. Covid notwithstanding, tax cuts and handouts didn't reduce the debt.
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@Copper said in Highlights:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Highlights:
connecting him to at least a semblance of reality
I hope that is what he is trying to do.
This topic is the reason Mr. Trump was elected 8 years ago.
This is why he was elected again.
No, it's really not. The debt and government overspend bizarrely don't seem to be things that worry people nearly as much as they ought to.
And Trump didn't help in the slightest in his first term. Covid notwithstanding, tax cuts and handouts didn't reduce the debt.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Highlights:
@Copper said in Highlights:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Highlights:
connecting him to at least a semblance of reality
I hope that is what he is trying to do.
This topic is the reason Mr. Trump was elected 8 years ago.
This is why he was elected again.
No, it's really not. The debt and government overspend bizarrely don't seem to be things that worry people nearly as much as they ought to.
And Trump didn't help in the slightest in his first term. Covid notwithstanding, tax cuts and handouts didn't reduce the debt.
COVID.
I think until COVID, we had turned a corner. Real wages were up, disposable income was up, tax collections were up.
Then it all got knocked ass-end over teakettle...