Some nascent spines in the GOP Caucus
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wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 18:03 last edited by
Yeah step one is to make it 100% clear that this will not end with Russia taking even one inch of Ukraine. Negotiate from there. The art of the deal... no?
Since I'm playing with monopoly money, to answer your question @LuFins-Dad , I would force Ukraine to join NATO and immediately call Russia's bluff. Might end the war, might convert it into a Russia-China-Iran world war conflict that they quickly back away from knowing it would dismantle their already crumbling economies.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 18:11 last edited by jon-nyc
Imagine if Trump had just started trolling Russia. Talking about how ruinous the war has been for their economy. How many soldiers they’ve lost. Stories about their ever desperate methods of recruitment. How they controlled more Ukrainian territory in March of 2022 than they do now (true story). Teasing them for needing to import weapons and men from the third world. Quoting Russian strategists talking about how this would be a theee day war. Etc etc. He’d have been good at it. Really.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 18:25 last edited by
He would have been good at that. But brinksmanship over nuclear war with Russia is not what he ran on. It is hardly obvious that such brinksmanship would have ended up better for Ukraine and the west, but anybody is free to have that opinion and attempt to back it up, as they please.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 18:29 last edited by
All the things that conservatives taught me long ago about deterrence and appeasement and freedom and tyranny, especially of the expansionist kind -- I can't unlearn them. It's too late.
Plus, I think they are true.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 19:00 last edited by Renauda
But then again, the Trumpigula’s Republican Party abandoned American conservatism some time ago in favour of something else. Not sure what that something else is other than an illiberal reactionary populism with more than just a hint of oligarchic technocracy built around a cult of personality. In short, a disgrace.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 19:10 last edited by
The counter-factual of Trump being Trump with nuclear brinksmanship would be fascinating to watch, not just for the outcome with Ukraine, but for the public discourse surrounding it. It goes without saying that the American left leaning media would be going insane about Trump bringing about the end of Western civilization, but each individual's response would be informative still.
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The counter-factual of Trump being Trump with nuclear brinksmanship would be fascinating to watch, not just for the outcome with Ukraine, but for the public discourse surrounding it. It goes without saying that the American left leaning media would be going insane about Trump bringing about the end of Western civilization, but each individual's response would be informative still.
wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 19:22 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Horace said in Some nascent spines in the GOP Caucus:
The counter-factual of Trump being Trump with nuclear brinksmanship would be fascinating to watch, not just for the outcome with Ukraine, but for the public discourse surrounding it. It goes without saying that the American left leaning media would be going insane about Trump bringing about the end of Western civilization, but each individual's response would be informative still.
It also goes without saying that pretty much all of Trump's supporters would be creaming themselves, and posting those computer generated vaguely homo-erotic pictures of him in superhero costume and riding a big train that were at one time so popular.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 20:06 last edited by jon-nyc
I think you nailed it. Maggots are closeted faggots. Hence all the Trump homerotica.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 20:08 last edited by
Projection, much?
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wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 20:18 last edited by
Nothing wrong with being gay, or having a feminine mindset. But if one has an issue with it, I would suggest not paying any close attention to the male phenotypes that end up resonating with left-leaning politics.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 20:21 last edited by
You folks are all missing the goal of all of this...the Nobel Peace Prize - missed out last round - but this time he's gonna win that thing if he has to surrender Ukraine or threaten nuclear annihilation of Norway.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 20:25 last edited by
The field is wide open for Trump to earn a Nobel Peace Prize to a far greater extent than Barack Obama's glorified DEI participation trophy, but I'm sure even Trump is aware enough to know that the Nobel referees would sooner rewrite the rules mid-game than signal a touchdown for him.
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The field is wide open for Trump to earn a Nobel Peace Prize to a far greater extent than Barack Obama's glorified DEI participation trophy, but I'm sure even Trump is aware enough to know that the Nobel referees would sooner rewrite the rules mid-game than signal a touchdown for him.
wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 22:18 last edited by@Horace said in Some nascent spines in the GOP Caucus:
even Trump is aware enough to know that the Nobel referees would sooner rewrite the rules mid-game than signal a touchdown for him.That's why he'll threaten to Nuke Norway - can seem the meme already.
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Nothing wrong with being gay, or having a feminine mindset. But if one has an issue with it, I would suggest not paying any close attention to the male phenotypes that end up resonating with left-leaning politics.
wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 01:13 last edited by@Horace said in Some nascent spines in the GOP Caucus:
Link to videoNothing wrong with being gay, or having a feminine mindset.
I always think of that funny Seinfeld show. 555
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wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 04:15 last edited by
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wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 05:00 last edited by Renauda
I too am at a loss for words, but not at the simple question.
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wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 06:10 last edited by
The story about the Florida patient who beat and broke every bone in a nurse's face - read a comment with 15K likes suggesting that Trump will likely want him in his administration.
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wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 11:23 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Some nascent spines in the GOP Caucus:
Well, the real point is, if he answers the question in the affirmative, this war is just going to go on and on, so that explains his inability to answer what is in reality a very complex, difficult question, and why only Trump can give us peace. You don't have a strategy, and that man has a strategy. It might be a terrible strategy, but at least it's a strategy. What is your solution? Joe Biden and Kamala Harris don't have one.
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wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 11:26 last edited by jon-nyc
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wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 12:45 last edited by
I wish Kelly hadn't cut him off as I wanted to hear what his response would be. "Well in my closed door session, you'll note that just before Russia crossed into Ukraine territory, a satellite caught a Ukrainian soldier on the border appearing to do the "fake punch" taunt to a Russian soldier, so technicallyyyyyyyy Ukraine started this shit. Don't start nothing, won't be nothin', I always say."