Chasing savings or clicks?
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wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 02:36 last edited by
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wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 13:55 last edited by
Revenge, priceless
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wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 18:48 last edited by
Oh there will be, there will be.
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wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 14:09 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Chasing savings or clicks?:
It's not even a question. The RTO and early "retirement" stuff is (IMO) going cost about 3-5x more in the end to the taxpayer. It's a very, very expensive marketing campaign.
If they were serious about cutting costs they would do something like:
- Require all agencies to reduce their workforce by 20% over two years. Let leadership pick those that add no value.
- Modify contracts and agency budgets to incentivize coming in underbudget, share a portion of the profit back to the contract/agency
- Establish a budget ceiling and/or tie it to GDP or whatever @LuFins-Dad says
I think most of this was tried in 2011 with the Budget Act by Obama, btw.
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@jon-nyc said in Chasing savings or clicks?:
It's not even a question. The RTO and early "retirement" stuff is (IMO) going cost about 3-5x more in the end to the taxpayer. It's a very, very expensive marketing campaign.
If they were serious about cutting costs they would do something like:
- Require all agencies to reduce their workforce by 20% over two years. Let leadership pick those that add no value.
- Modify contracts and agency budgets to incentivize coming in underbudget, share a portion of the profit back to the contract/agency
- Establish a budget ceiling and/or tie it to GDP or whatever @LuFins-Dad says
I think most of this was tried in 2011 with the Budget Act by Obama, btw.
wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 14:18 last edited by@89th said in Chasing savings or clicks?:
It's not even a question. The RTO and early "retirement" stuff is (IMO) going cost about 3-5x more in the end to the taxpayer. It's a very, very expensive marketing campaign.
Does Elon know this?
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wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 15:50 last edited by
I'm an Elon fan, in general. I'm not sure what is going on now, so far based on what the DOGE site has published, it seems it's mostly chasing headlines (and existing known facts) rather than actual earnest reform. Part of me thinks his autistic side is addicted to the power of the Presidency and he can't disconnect.
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wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 14:20 last edited by
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I'm an Elon fan, in general. I'm not sure what is going on now, so far based on what the DOGE site has published, it seems it's mostly chasing headlines (and existing known facts) rather than actual earnest reform. Part of me thinks his autistic side is addicted to the power of the Presidency and he can't disconnect.
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@jon-nyc said in Chasing savings or clicks?:
It is highly inappropriate, but until there are spines in the Legislative Branch or respect for the Judicial Branch, we are just observers...
BTW, most federal employees (through 2024) can be found in this database. Salary, agency, etc... There is a reason there is transparency, at least most of the time.
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wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 14:42 last edited by
@Horace said in Chasing savings or clicks?:
@89th said in Chasing savings or clicks?:
I'm an Elon fan,
This cannot last.
Respect has certainly gone down as he's gone down this weird political/power/autistic rabbit hole. Before Trump, Elon was a loud critic of government spending and the looming bankruptcy it'll cause, but his approach here to treat the federal government like twitter is neither effective nor prudent.
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wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 14:47 last edited by
I'll wait and see, while weathering the storm of rhetorical dunks every step of the way. These are big ideas, and blunt objects, and I'm not expecting surgical precision. I'm hoping for net good results, at some point. I like to see them trying.
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wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 19:13 last edited by JollyLink to video
In the above video, please note how fast the debt is piling up.
We can either address it or do a Weimar.
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wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 19:42 last edited by
As long as both tribes think the other will benefit more from fiscal responsibility, there will be no agreement. We'd prefer to die together with our enemy than watch them win.