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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #12

    No, it's different in your opinion. I look at it as a win.

    1. I don't think Adams will be reelected.
    2. ICE gains access to a lot, and I mean a lot, of illegals.
    3. ICE gains cooperation from NYPD, etc.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #13

      Certainly corruption can be considered a win, depending on which side of the transaction you find yourself.

      You were warned.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #14

        Re Adam’s and the election, I would like to think that this deal alone would make him more likely to lose the primary. But the problem is it’s really crowded and he’s the only one with decent name recognition

        You were warned.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #15

          This has a political element, but that seems to be the only thing you're concentrating on. I look at this as a criminal justice problem...Adams hasn't killed, raped or maimed anybody, but a lot of the illegals in NYC have committed such acts...Not to mention the growing power of the cartels in New York and their use of illegals for sex trafficking and the illicit drug trade.

          So, we let Adams go, but we get some bad people off the street.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Re Adam’s and the election, I would like to think that this deal alone would make him more likely to lose the primary. But the problem is it’s really crowded and he’s the only one with decent name recognition

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #16

            @jon-nyc said in Vindicated:

            Re Adam’s and the election, I would like to think that this deal alone would make him more likely to lose the primary. But the problem is it’s really crowded and he’s the only one with decent name recognition

            Cuomo.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #17

              He’s not in yet and his name recognition cuts both ways.

              You were warned.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                He’s not in yet and his name recognition cuts both ways.

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #18

                @jon-nyc said in Vindicated:

                He’s not in yet and his name recognition cuts both ways.

                He's a pretty good politician, though. I'm guessing he would do well in the primary.

                Does the GOP have anything at all?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #19

                  There’s been talk the last couple days of Adams switching parties.

                  But I don’t think they’re running anyone known.

                  You were warned.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #20

                    Wow. He's just openly saying on live TV that this is a quid pro quo and Adams has to do want Trump wants on immigration or he's going to jail.

                    You were warned.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Wow. He's just openly saying on live TV that this is a quid pro quo and Adams has to do want Trump wants on immigration or he's going to jail.

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #21

                      @jon-nyc Great minds think alike!! (Or idiots run in pairs!). LOL

                      I was just going to post that!

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                      • HoraceH Online
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                        Horace
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                        #22

                        Deals, compromises, and agreements in politics. I'll need time to process my emotions.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #23

                          Usually this don't include threats of prosecution hanging over ones head like a sword of Damocles. Seems rather lawfarish to me.

                          You were warned.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Usually this don't include threats of prosecution hanging over ones head like a sword of Damocles. Seems rather lawfarish to me.

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                            Horace
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                            #24

                            @jon-nyc I'm happy that you've found an inner conviction against lawfare, but you accidentally wrote it like the Trump admin invented some flimsy charges and threatened him with them. I know you wouldn't want to imply something that wasn't true, so you're welcome for the correction.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #25

                              It depends on how one defines lawfare. At its most basic it strikes me that any use of the prosecutorial power for political purposes would qualify.

                              You were warned.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #26

                                One could argue there’s a civil equivalent too.

                                You were warned.

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                                • HoraceH Online
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                                  Horace
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                                  Again, it's good that you've developed convictions against that sort of thing in politics.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #28

                                    Nice try. From the beginning I said the NY case against Trump was shit.

                                    You were warned.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Nice try. From the beginning I said the NY case against Trump was shit.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #29

                                      @jon-nyc Great, you should look into the Adams case.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        One might ask who in the previous administration Adams was pissing off. I don't really know enough about it to say.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          You were warned.

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